Correct town names

[Tinkerbell]

Jan Leonhard Mambers married in 1747 in Rotterdam, The Netherlands. So I am gonna assume he was born between 1720-1727 somewhere in Germany. He seem to have died in 1842 in Dutch East-India

Hallo.

Ich spreche kein Englisch, aber die Daten können so nicht stimmen oder ?

LG Marina

[katrinkasper]

Joannes Mompers, baptized 19-2-1718 Meckenheim
Possible parents:
Nicolass Mompers
Elisabeth Caspars

This should be Meckenheim near Bonn and not Meckenheim in the Palatine since the family name of MOMPER is present in the towns adjacent to Meckenheim near Bonn until today.

[Mats]

Hallo rvanderwindt,

my english is not good, so i will answer in German.

Mir fällt da noch der Ort Mergentheim ein, bis Frankfurt etwa 140 km, bis zur Donau etwa 150 km. In der Nähe gibt es noch den Ort Weikersheim.

Werkenheim und Mergentheim klingt schon sehr ähnlich find ich.

Grüße aus OWL
Anja

[rvanderwindt]

Have you also a source about this ?

I got this information from the Archives of Schiedam. On 03-02-1748 Jan Leonhard Mambers became a citizen of the city Schiedam in The Netherlands. It was mentioned that he was born in "Weggene ? a/d Donau". I don't have images of this because the info came from microfiches. (didn't see them myself)

[rvanderwindt]

I wonder if there are records in Germany that would mention that he would move to the Netherlands. I am not familiar with the German archives.

[Anna Sara Weingart]

I got this information from the Archives of Schiedam ... the info came from microfiches. (didn't see them myself)

Hello,
the easiest way to solve this problem is, that you go to this archive, and have a look on the original document. If you are living in the Nederlands.

If you have done so, we will pleased to try again to idenficate his place of origin (place of birth).
In the moment the inconsistency between the statements "near Frankfurt" and "near the Donau" (the river) are unsolvable.

I got this information from the Archives of Schiedam ...

Why did they not made a copy for you?
Best regards

[rvanderwindt]

Hello,
the easiest way to solve this problem is, that you go to this archive, and have a look on the original document. If you are living in the Nederlands.

If you have done so, we will pleased to try again to idenficate his place of origin (place of birth).
In the moment the inconsistency between the statements "near Frankfurt" and "near the Donau" (the river) are unsolvable.


Why did they not made a copy for you?
Best regards

Back then, I send them an email after I found the name of Jan Leonhard Mambers on the archive site. The website was referring to some documents in the archive. An employee of the archives didn't want me to travel all the way for nothing, so had a quick look in the "In and Out" index. There she found his place of birth. I am not sure if the document actually said "Weggene a/d Donau or that it was her interpretation.

[Anna Sara Weingart]

... had a quick look in the "In and Out" index. ...

Maybe, she is able to make a copy/photo of the original document? Good luck

[rvanderwindt]

But there were Mamber in Wurttemberg, as you can see here:
https://familysearch.org/search/tree...r%3A1720-1730~

Just had another look at that mail I got from the archive back then. The exact name that was shown in there was "Jann Leonhard Mamber"

[rvanderwindt]

Maybe, she is able to make a copy/photo of the original document? Good luck

She gave me the information for free, as you usually have to pay for this kind of research, but I might visit the archive soon, as it is pretty close to my old hometown.

[assi.d]

Jan Leonhard Mambers married in 1747 in Rotterdam, The Netherlands. So I am gonna assume he was born between 1720-1727 somewhere in Germany. He seem to have died in 1842 in Dutch East-India

Hello, please have a look at the posting No. 16: if he was born between 1720-1747 he definitly could not have been died in 1842! So he would be 100-120 years old!!!

Something wrong in the calculations.....

Kind regards
Astrid

[rvanderwindt]

Hello, please have a look at the posting No. 16: if he was born between 1720-1747 he definitly could not have been died in 1842! So he would be 100-120 years old!!!

Something wrong in the calculations.....

Kind regards
Astrid

You are correct. His son died in 1842. In his death record it was mentioned that his father passed away in East-India, so in one archive a reference was made to this date.

[assi.d]

Kurze Zusammenfassung auf Deutsch:

der Sohn starb 1842 und in dessen Sterbeeintrag steht, daß der Vater in Ost-Indien gestorben ist. Das muss aber schon länger zurückgelegen haben...

Geht man mal von einem Durchschnittssterbealter von 70 Jahren aus, sollte er schon um 1800 herum gestorben sein.

Gruss
Assi