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  • Marcio Scheibler
    Erfahrener Benutzer
    • 28.05.2013
    • 486

    #16
    Hello, Christine!!!

    What is "Perlnbläsers"???

    I thank you for the translation and for decode, because the letters are terrible



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    I think you need help with the new entries

    Franz Xaver * 10. Aug 1825

    Father:
    Peter Richter, Tuchmacher und Sohn des Franz Richter Tuchmachermeisters in Neurode No. unb. in Preußisch Schlesien und der Theresia Wildin aus Neurode No. unb
    Peter Richter, clothier, son of Franz Richter, clothier master from Neurode, Number not known, prussia Silesia and Theresia Wild from Neurode Nr. not known.

    Mother:
    M. Anna Tochter des Stephan Wabersich Perlnbläsers in Gablonz No 30 neu 301 alt, und der M. Anna Jackel aus Gablonz No 191 alt 243 neu
    Same as above only the house numbers are different


    Franz
    *31 Oct 1826

    Same as before, only Franz Richter, father of Peter was already deceased (+!) and Stephan Wabersich was called a Gärtler = owner of a garden(with little house? - I think he didn't work no longer)
    Marcio Scheibler - Genealogist and writer

    - Feix, Fischer, Haupt, Lammel, Parkert (Burkert), Reckziegel, Scheibler, Seidel - from Böhmen
    - Frantz, Leonhardt, Peiter, Ruppenthal, Tatsch - from Rheinland-Pfalz
    - Sell, Stroschoen - from Pommern
    - Keller - from Baden-Wurtenberg
    - Datthijn - from Netherland

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    • PeterS
      Moderator
      • 20.05.2009
      • 3809

      #17
      Zitat von Marcio Scheibler Beitrag anzeigen
      Hello, Peter!

      I did not know the name of brothers of Joseph, but I thank you so much for the links that you showed here
      ... but you know the name of the parents of his siblings

      This Baptism index (1730-1826) is easy to read and provides you the names, the years and the page numbers.

      Peter

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      • Xtine
        Administrator

        • 16.07.2006
        • 29892

        #18
        Zitat von Marcio Scheibler Beitrag anzeigen
        What is "Perlnbläsers"???
        A man who makes glass pearls, glassblower for pearls, gaffer (I don't find more words in the dictionary )
        Viele Grüße .................................. .
        Christine

        .. .............
        Wer sich das Alte noch einmal vor Augen führt, um das Neue zu erkennen, der kann anderen ein Lehrer sein.
        (Konfuzius)

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        • Xtine
          Administrator

          • 16.07.2006
          • 29892

          #19
          Zitat von Marcio Scheibler Beitrag anzeigen
          I don't know to use correctly this website yet
          Did you see our english forum instructions?
          Viele Grüße .................................. .
          Christine

          .. .............
          Wer sich das Alte noch einmal vor Augen führt, um das Neue zu erkennen, der kann anderen ein Lehrer sein.
          (Konfuzius)

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          • Marcio Scheibler
            Erfahrener Benutzer
            • 28.05.2013
            • 486

            #20
            Thank you, Peter!!!

            Zitat von PeterS Beitrag anzeigen
            ... but you know the name of the parents of his siblings

            This Baptism index (1730-1826) is easy to read and provides you the names, the years and the page numbers.

            Peter
            Marcio Scheibler - Genealogist and writer

            - Feix, Fischer, Haupt, Lammel, Parkert (Burkert), Reckziegel, Scheibler, Seidel - from Böhmen
            - Frantz, Leonhardt, Peiter, Ruppenthal, Tatsch - from Rheinland-Pfalz
            - Sell, Stroschoen - from Pommern
            - Keller - from Baden-Wurtenberg
            - Datthijn - from Netherland

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            • Marcio Scheibler
              Erfahrener Benutzer
              • 28.05.2013
              • 486

              #21
              Thank you, Christine

              Zitat von Xtine Beitrag anzeigen
              A man who makes glass pearls, glassblower for pearls, gaffer (I don't find more words in the dictionary )
              Marcio Scheibler - Genealogist and writer

              - Feix, Fischer, Haupt, Lammel, Parkert (Burkert), Reckziegel, Scheibler, Seidel - from Böhmen
              - Frantz, Leonhardt, Peiter, Ruppenthal, Tatsch - from Rheinland-Pfalz
              - Sell, Stroschoen - from Pommern
              - Keller - from Baden-Wurtenberg
              - Datthijn - from Netherland

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              • franz ferdinand
                Erfahrener Benutzer
                • 15.01.2013
                • 345

                #22
                Zitat von Marcio Scheibler Beitrag anzeigen
                Hello, Martin!!!

                I have interest in a contact.

                My Scheibler ancestors came from early Gablonz to Brazil in 1869. I found the birth register of my great-great grandfather and his father, as well as the marriage register of his parents, in the website Family Search.

                Can you give a e-mail address to contact with the group?

                Thank you
                I´ve just called my contact, and she´s pleased to hear from you. I´ll send the e-mail-adress to you per personal message.

                Greetings from Austria!
                Martin
                Ahnenforschung ist eine Mischung aus Kreuzworträtsel und Puzzle mit der Besonderheit, dass man die Schrift des Rätsels kaum lesen kann und am Anfang fast alle Teile fehlen. Thomas Balderer, SFR

                Forschungsgebiet: Niederösterreich, Oberösterreich, Deutsch-Westungarn, Steiermark, Mittelfranken, Oberbayern, Wien, Oberfranken, Südmähren, Schlesien, Böhmen, Sachsen, Oberpfalz, Oberschwaben

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                • Marcio Scheibler
                  Erfahrener Benutzer
                  • 28.05.2013
                  • 486

                  #23
                  Please, someone compare these 3 registers:

                  Christening of Joseph Richter - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3....71W:n731890821

                  Marriage of Peter Richter and Maria Anna Wabersich (parents of Joseph Richter) - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3....WSS:n108938641

                  Marriage of Stephan Wabersich e Maria Anna Jakl (maybe the parents of Maria Anna Wabersich) - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3....WSS:n108938641

                  I believe it is 3 generations. Do you agree?
                  Marcio Scheibler - Genealogist and writer

                  - Feix, Fischer, Haupt, Lammel, Parkert (Burkert), Reckziegel, Scheibler, Seidel - from Böhmen
                  - Frantz, Leonhardt, Peiter, Ruppenthal, Tatsch - from Rheinland-Pfalz
                  - Sell, Stroschoen - from Pommern
                  - Keller - from Baden-Wurtenberg
                  - Datthijn - from Netherland

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                  • Asphaltblume
                    Erfahrener Benutzer
                    • 04.09.2012
                    • 1501

                    #24
                    I think it may well be the three generations you name.
                    If this is the case, Maria Anna Wabersich would be married about 30 years after her parents' marriage. Her father is dead by then - maybe she was one of the last children born in her family. It is a pity they did not register the mother's name of the bride and groom, too! And their age would be quite helpful as well.
                    The family seems to be firmly settled in Gablonz, maybe you can find birth records of the children born to Stephan Wabersich and Maria Anna Jakl in the church books to confirm?
                    Gruß Asphaltblume

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                    • Marcio Scheibler
                      Erfahrener Benutzer
                      • 28.05.2013
                      • 486

                      #25
                      I will try to find the birth records of other children of Stephan Wabersich and Maria Anna Jakl.

                      Confirm for me: the father of Stephan is Tobia Wabersich and the father of Maria Anna is Joseph Jakl?

                      Moreover, can someone help me to translate all the second and the third record (the marriage of Peter Richter and the Stephan Wabersich)?

                      Thanks

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                      I think it may well be the three generations you name.
                      [--
                      If this is the case, Maria Anna Wabersich would be married about 30 years after her parents' marriage. Her father is dead by then - maybe she was one of the last children born in her family. It is a pity they did not register the mother's name of the bride and groom, too! And their age would be quite helpful as well.
                      The family seems to be firmly settled in Gablonz, maybe you can find birth records of the children born to Stephan Wabersich and Maria Anna Jakl in the church books to confirm?
                      Marcio Scheibler - Genealogist and writer

                      - Feix, Fischer, Haupt, Lammel, Parkert (Burkert), Reckziegel, Scheibler, Seidel - from Böhmen
                      - Frantz, Leonhardt, Peiter, Ruppenthal, Tatsch - from Rheinland-Pfalz
                      - Sell, Stroschoen - from Pommern
                      - Keller - from Baden-Wurtenberg
                      - Datthijn - from Netherland

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                      • Asphaltblume
                        Erfahrener Benutzer
                        • 04.09.2012
                        • 1501

                        #26
                        I read "Stephanus filius Tobiae" (->genitive) in the entry, so the father's name would be Tobias in the nominative case. And Maria Annas father is Joseph Jakl ("filia post defunctum Josephum Jakl" - surviving daughter of the late Joseph(us) Jakl).
                        Gruß Asphaltblume

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