Anton GREGOR

[Federico]

I'm researching about

Anton GREGOR
Rechnungs-Offiicial der k.k. Ni. Oest. Provinzial-Staatsbuchhaltung
B. abt 1788
Died in Wien 3 March 1838

married bef 1822
Henriette ALAVOINE
from Frankfurt/Oder
died aft 1839


He was in LeopoldStadt 402 and 520
Remembered in Hof- und Staats-Schematismus des Österreichischen (years 1817 and 1824-1828)

Has anyone ever found any documents about these two names in Wien parishes?

[Xtine]

Ciao,

Here is the marriage

https://data.matricula-online.eu/de/oesterreich/wien/04-wieden/02-04/?pg=202

1st entry

On genteam.at you can find a database!
You only have to create a free account

https://www.genteam.at/de/wien/db3?view=db&id=3

[Federico]

Thanks
But if someone is researching on Matricula parish archives maybe help be

[Xtine]

Genteam.at helps for the Austrian registers and also those from the diocese of Passau

[Federico]

Could someone transcript marriage act??

thanks!


26/02/1816
Wien
Wieden



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[Svenja]

Hallo

Herr Anton Gregor, Hofbuch
haltungs Accessus / Accessist, gebürtig
von Czech in Mähren, des
Joseph Gregor, Müllermeisters
am Leben und der Anna ...
... dessen Ehegattin, ehelicher Sohn
Wieden Nr. 278

Juliana, ... des
Wilhelm Bollinger
Kupferstechers ...
hinterlassene
Wittwe, gebürtig
von St. Amour,
aus Franche Comtes,
Departement de Jura,
geborene ... Ludvig
Alavoine, Bretaul
i. e. Breteuil
Wieden Nr. 278

Sie kam also aus Frankreich, "Franche Comté" grenzt ans Elsass und die Schweiz.

Archives du Jura, Kirchenbuch- und Standesamtseinträge online https://archives39.fr/page/acces-aux...ents-numerises

Gruss
Svenja

[Federico]

Thanks Svenja!

In Berlin first marriage Act (1801)
Juliana ALAVOINE was born in Franfurt/Oder

His first husband died in 1825!!! So still alive in 1816

It's understandable that she wanted to hide her failed first marriage, but I don't understand why she changed her father's identity, becoming "Major Ludwig Alavoine," and her place of birth.

[Xtine]

Hi Federico,

next time, please post the entry in the "Lesehilfe" if you can't read it!
For every entry open a new topic and post the Link to the entry if they are free, no screenshot!


Herr Anton Gregor, Hofbuch
haltungs Accessus / Accessist, gebürtig
von Czech in Mähren, des
Joseph Gregor, Müllermeisters
am Leben und der Anna _kletsch- (Ikletsch????)
tiek(?) dessen sel.(ig =+) Ehegattin, ehelicher Sohn
Wieden Nr. 278

Juliana, Ad H.
Wilhelm Bollinger
Kupferstechers sel.
hinterlassene
Wittwe, gebürtig
von St. Amour,
aus Franche Comtes,
Departement de Jura,
geborene Maria Ludwig
Alavoine, Bretaul
i. e. Breteuil
Wieden Nr. 278


Are you sure, Wilhelm Bollinger died in 1825?

In Berlin first marriage Act (1801)
Juliana ALAVOINE was born in Franfurt/Oder

No! It says that her father lived in Frankfurt Oder 1801

[Zita]

Hallo,

Anna Illetschkin (das ist eine weibliche Form des Familiennamens Illetschko).

This marriage entry says that she was widow after the death of Wilhelm Bollinger.

Ludwig is the German translation of Louis.

LG Zita

[Federico]

Thanks Zita
But Wilhelm Bollinger died in 1825....
Maybe they divorced.

[Federico]

Xtine
he was the famous
deutscher Kupfetecher und Professor in Berlin

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_Wilhelm_Bollinger

[Zita]

Federico,

are you sure, that Friedrich Wilhelm Bollinger und Wilhelm Bollinger are the same persons? Perhaps these are two different persons of the same family working in the same profession.

Did you find the marriage between him and Juliane Henriette? Did they have children? The link in wikipedia says that when Friedrich Wilhelm died in 1825 only his mother aged 88 was still alive.

Why I ask:
+ in the last column of the marriage entry ("Anmerkungen") in Vienna it is said: "Todtenschein beglaubigt": this means that a parish or a public authority has confirmed, that Wilhelm has died before. Furthermore the bride is catholic. I don't think that it was possible to marry twice unless you have got a nullification of the first marriage.

LG Zita

[bigut]

Hallo zusammen,

Sterbeeintrag 20.01.1825 Bollinger Friedrich Wilhelm steht, hinterläßt die Mutter und eine uneheliche Tochter.

https://www.ancestry.de/search/collections/61229/records/2809769?tid=&pid=&queryId=bfa357bf-84f5-41fc-a7df-7c34b2dc14e5&_phsrc=jwh14760&_phstart=successSource

Trauung 1801 steht, Johann Friedrich Wilhelm Bollinger

https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/61229/records/4818550?tid=&pid=&queryId=766b34a6-760a-4077-847f-9b459e35c5d5&_phsrc=jtC721&_phstart=successSource

Ich schließe mich Zita an, zweit verschiedene Personen


Gruß bigut

[Federico]

Thanks Bigut
I have already found all in original documents
From 1805 to 1819 Bollinger had several children but not from Juliane
Maybe they divorced

[Federico]

Yes Zita, I'm sure

Cause in Feb. 1819 when Juliane's sister died, Professor Bollinger wrote an article of condolences for his Schwagerin


Did you find the marriage between him and Juliane Henriette?
YES
1801 in Berlin