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  • scheuck
    Erfahrener Benutzer
    • 23.10.2011
    • 5270

    #16
    Zitat von remek116 Beitrag anzeigen
    Ok, perhaps I will try to tidy it up information and please tell me whether well I understood what you had written:
    1. at first I should scan my identity card. (My ID is enough? My surname is Jaworek, but I am thinking whether I am supposed to scan identity cards: own, my father and the grandfather in order to receive information about the great-grandfather?)
    2. I am writing the mail to the address: Standesamt@wandsbek.hamburg.de.
    3. in contents of the mail:
    a. I am introducing myself and I am giving the full name of my great- grandfather and his date and place of birth.
    b. I am finishing writing this text: "eine unbgelaubigte Registerablichtung mit allen Randvermerken"
    4. I am waiting for the response (there will be given data in this reply for the transfer and they say what i should do next?).
    5. I am doing the transfer to the shown account.
    6. I am sending with mail to the same address confirmation of the performed transfer.
    7. I am waiting for the document for which I asked. (will send it in letter for me, or with the mail?)

    This way is it looking out? I ask for correcting if I misunderstood something.
    I will know from the document which they are sending how was called mother/father and where were born?

    I thank everyone
    Greetings
    Yes, so far as I see, everything will be okay!
    Your last-name and the last-name of your grandfather are the same; so it'll be okay to copy your identity-card. - I would never scan or copy my identity-card and send it by mail, but that's another question!
    If I have to send a copy of a transfer form, I make the number of my own account "black", so nobody can see it.
    Yes, you'll have to wait; may be they are going to send the birth-record by mail; may be they'll send by letter. If you are going to send a mail, they'll answere by mail.

    If your grandfather was a legal son of your grand-grandparents, you'll find the names of the grand-grandparents within Jan's birth-record. If not, if the father isn't officially known, you'll find the name of his mother. Usually only the place where they (grand-grandparents) lived when a child was born is written at a birth-record. You'll see .....

    Regards and good luck,
    Scheuck
    Herzliche Grüße
    Scheuck

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    • scheuck
      Erfahrener Benutzer
      • 23.10.2011
      • 5270

      #17
      Need some help....

      I'm sorry, I have been to late

      I'm sorry too: when I was looking for the birth-record of my grandfather, I had to copy MY identity-card. They didn't want to see further "papers"....
      Herzliche Grüße
      Scheuck

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      • Kleeschen
        Erfahrener Benutzer
        • 01.03.2014
        • 1708

        #18
        Hello Remigiusz,
        Hello scheuck,
        Hello everybody,

        Zitat von scheuck Beitrag anzeigen
        I'm sorry too: when I was looking for the birth-record of my grandfather, I had to copy MY identity-card. They didn't want to see further "papers"....
        Are you shure? When I ordered my grandmother's death certificate in Hamburg-Wandsbek they wanted my passport, my birth certificate and my father's family book (Familienbuch).

        Zitat von remek116 Beitrag anzeigen
        Will photographs of these documents be enough? I suspect, that not...: (
        I have photo a birth certificate of the grandfather, I can scan my passport, or the identity card, I only need copy of a birth certificate of my father.
        I think a copy is enough. I never sent original documents to registry offices. Always copies and they were always ok!

        Sincerely,
        Kleeschen
        Gouv. Cherson (Ukraine): Wahler, Oberländer, Schauer, Gutmüller, Schock, Freuer, Her(r)mann, Deschler & Simon
        Batschka (Ungarn/Serbien): Freier, Schock, Fuchs, Nessel, Weingärtner & Simon
        Rems-Murr-Kreis & Krs. Esslingen (Württemberg): Wahler, Bischoff, Stark, Schmid, Eiber & Magnus (Mang)
        Donnersbergkreis (Pfalz): Weingärtner, Gäres (Göres) & Opp
        Krs. Südwestpfalz (Pfalz): Freyer, Stecke, Neuhart & Kindelberger
        Krs. Germersheim (Pfalz): Deschler, Bär, Humbert, Dörrzapf & Stauch

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        • Forschi
          Erfahrener Benutzer
          • 06.03.2011
          • 529

          #19
          Hallo,

          in Hamburger Standesämtern wird der Nachweis einer direkten Verwandtschaft sehr genau genommen. Das heisst man weist sich selber aus und tastet sich dann über die Geburts- oder auch Heiratsurkunden der Eltern, Großeltern...zurück bis zu der Person, zu der man eine Urkundenkopie bestellen möchte.
          LG Forschi

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          • scheuck
            Erfahrener Benutzer
            • 23.10.2011
            • 5270

            #20
            Need some help....

            Zitat von Kleeschen Beitrag anzeigen
            Hello Remigiusz,
            Hello scheuck,
            Hello everybody,

            Are you shure? When I ordered my grandmother's death certificate in Hamburg-Wandsbek they wanted my passport, my birth certificate and my father's family book (Familienbuch).

            Sincerely,
            Kleeschen
            Yes, Kleeschen; I'm pretty sure! - I ordered a copy from Standesamt Osnabrück = Niedersachsen. May be they aren't not that precise???
            Herzliche Grüße
            Scheuck

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            • Kleeschen
              Erfahrener Benutzer
              • 01.03.2014
              • 1708

              #21
              Zitat von scheuck Beitrag anzeigen
              Yes, Kleeschen; I'm pretty sure! - I ordered a copy from Standesamt Osnabrück = Niedersachsen. May be they aren't not that precise???
              Hello scheuck,

              I got my great-aunt's death certificate from Standesamt Bersenbrück (next to Osnabrück). She died 2012. They are really not that precise.
              Look what Forschi on german wrote!

              Sincerely,
              Kleeschen
              Gouv. Cherson (Ukraine): Wahler, Oberländer, Schauer, Gutmüller, Schock, Freuer, Her(r)mann, Deschler & Simon
              Batschka (Ungarn/Serbien): Freier, Schock, Fuchs, Nessel, Weingärtner & Simon
              Rems-Murr-Kreis & Krs. Esslingen (Württemberg): Wahler, Bischoff, Stark, Schmid, Eiber & Magnus (Mang)
              Donnersbergkreis (Pfalz): Weingärtner, Gäres (Göres) & Opp
              Krs. Südwestpfalz (Pfalz): Freyer, Stecke, Neuhart & Kindelberger
              Krs. Germersheim (Pfalz): Deschler, Bär, Humbert, Dörrzapf & Stauch

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              • scheuck
                Erfahrener Benutzer
                • 23.10.2011
                • 5270

                #22
                Need some help....

                Yes, Kleeschen, I saw already
                I ordered another record regarding the nephew of my grandfather, who died in 1958. They didn't care anyway and send the record by mail after payment.
                They didn't even ask who I am
                Herzliche Grüße
                Scheuck

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                • Kleeschen
                  Erfahrener Benutzer
                  • 01.03.2014
                  • 1708

                  #23
                  Zitat von scheuck Beitrag anzeigen
                  Yes, Kleeschen, I saw already
                  I ordered another record regarding the nephew of my grandfather, who died in 1958. They didn't care anyway and send the record by mail after payment.
                  They didn't even ask who I am
                  So Remigiusz will have to send all the documents to the registry office (Standesamt).
                  Remigiusz, do you want to send an email or a letter?

                  Here is the adress:

                  Bezirksamt Wandsbek - Standesamt
                  Schloßstraße 60
                  22041 Hamburg
                  Deutschland (Germany)

                  And here the email-adress and all the other contact opportunities:

                  Bezirksamt Wandsbek - Standesamt
                  Email: Standesamt[at]Wandsbek.Hamburg.de
                  Phone: +4940428280
                  Fax: +4940427905994

                  Good luck!

                  Sincerely,
                  Kleeschen
                  Gouv. Cherson (Ukraine): Wahler, Oberländer, Schauer, Gutmüller, Schock, Freuer, Her(r)mann, Deschler & Simon
                  Batschka (Ungarn/Serbien): Freier, Schock, Fuchs, Nessel, Weingärtner & Simon
                  Rems-Murr-Kreis & Krs. Esslingen (Württemberg): Wahler, Bischoff, Stark, Schmid, Eiber & Magnus (Mang)
                  Donnersbergkreis (Pfalz): Weingärtner, Gäres (Göres) & Opp
                  Krs. Südwestpfalz (Pfalz): Freyer, Stecke, Neuhart & Kindelberger
                  Krs. Germersheim (Pfalz): Deschler, Bär, Humbert, Dörrzapf & Stauch

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                  • remek116
                    Benutzer
                    • 28.08.2014
                    • 7

                    #24
                    I still have one question, I should use name of great-grandfather the way it sounds in Polish - Jan, whether rather in the German version: Johannes, Johann or other?

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                    • Kleeschen
                      Erfahrener Benutzer
                      • 01.03.2014
                      • 1708

                      #25
                      Hello Remigiusz,
                      Hello everybody,

                      Jan is (now) a name which is also present in germany. But I never found a Jan in that time.
                      You can translate Jan into Johann, Johannes and Hans.

                      Sincerely,
                      Kleeschen
                      Gouv. Cherson (Ukraine): Wahler, Oberländer, Schauer, Gutmüller, Schock, Freuer, Her(r)mann, Deschler & Simon
                      Batschka (Ungarn/Serbien): Freier, Schock, Fuchs, Nessel, Weingärtner & Simon
                      Rems-Murr-Kreis & Krs. Esslingen (Württemberg): Wahler, Bischoff, Stark, Schmid, Eiber & Magnus (Mang)
                      Donnersbergkreis (Pfalz): Weingärtner, Gäres (Göres) & Opp
                      Krs. Südwestpfalz (Pfalz): Freyer, Stecke, Neuhart & Kindelberger
                      Krs. Germersheim (Pfalz): Deschler, Bär, Humbert, Dörrzapf & Stauch

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                      • remek116
                        Benutzer
                        • 28.08.2014
                        • 7

                        #26
                        Thanks everyone for help I already wrote the message to the given mail address in Hamburg. When i will get more information I will share with you. Perhaps my further search will lead me to the next German city

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