[gelöst] Help to translation - Gablonz 1821

[Marcio Scheibler]

Quelle bzw. Art des Textes:
Jahr, aus dem der Text stammt:
Ort/Gegend der Text-Herkunft:

Hello!!!

One more time I ask help to translate a register:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-20230-37963-4?cc=1804263&wc=M9QY-71W:n731890821

Is the last register in the right side:

The kid is Maria Anna (Oktober, 1821), son of Anton Appelt. According with the birth register of a son of Maria Anna, the wife of Anton Appelt is Maria Rosina Seiboth. But I did not discerned this name in register.

Can you help me?

Thank you very much

[Tinkerbell]

Hallo.
Ich kann leider kein Englisch.
Ich versuche es einmal. Kann bitte jemand nachsehen, verbessern und übersetzen. Danke!

(?). Oktober 1821

alt ...(?)
am
29.

Maria
Anna

Father:
Anton
Appelt
Perlenblaser (?)

Mother:
Klara Tochter
des Joachim
Hübner Glas-
schleifer in (?)
Nr. 78 und der
Mutter The-
resia Scholz
aus Henners-
dorf Nr.

(?) Anna Tochter
des Gottfried
Hübner Handels-
man in Gablonz
Joseph Pfeiffer(?) Handelsmann
in Gablonz

MfG Marina

[Xtine]

Hello,

I read:

[Day]1. Oktober 1821

[House number]alt Ø
neu
29.
No old housenumber, new number 29

[Name]Maria
Anna

Father:
Anton
Appelt
Perlenblaser Pearlmaker / Pearlblower

Mother:
Klara Tochter daughter of
des Joachim J.H.
Hübner Glas- glassgrinder(?) (he did glass grinding)
schleifer in Gbz(=Gablonz) from Gablonz, new housenumber 78
Nr. 78 neu ; der and her mother
Mutter The-
resia Scholz
aus Henners- from Hennersdorf
dorf Nr.

[Godfather/mother] M.(aria) Anna Tochter
des Gottfried
Hübner Handels- merchant
man in Gablonz
Joseph Pfeiffer Handelsmann merchant
in Gablonz

[an der Schlei]

Ich versuche es einmal:

Hallo.
Ich kann leider kein Englisch.
Ich versuche es einmal. Kann bitte jemand nachsehen, verbessern und übersetzen. Danke!

(?). Oktober 1821
Hausnummer (housenumber)

alt ...(old)
am (new)
29.
it seems as if the house numbers have changed and here the old and the new number were remarked


Maria
Anna

Father:
Anton Appelt
Perlenblaser (?) sehe ich auch so (glass blower, producing glass-pearls)

Mother:
Klara
Tochter des (daughter of)
Joachim Hübner
Glasschleifer (glass cutter)
in
? (Hs. =short cut for house?)
Nr. 78
und der Mutter (and the mother)
Theresia Scholz
aus (from)
Hennersdorf
Nr.

(? Fr = short cut for Fräulein,Missis?)
Anna
Tochter des (daughter of)
Gottfried Hübner
Handelsman in Gablonz (merchant in Gablonz)

Joseph Pfeiffer(?)
Handelsmann in Gablonz (merchant in Gablonz)

MfG Marina

schöne Grüße
von der Schlei

[Tinkerbell]

Hallo.
An Christine und an der Schlei:
Danke für eure Hilfe.
MfG Marina

[Marcio Scheibler]

Maria Anna Appelt is my ancestor, but I don't know if this register is hers.

If someone can, compare the birth register of Maria Anna Appelt that I showed:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-20230-37963-4?cc=1804263&wc=M9QY-71W:n731890821

with the birth register of her son, Franz Scheibler (4th register):

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-20231-5863-55?cc=1804263&wc=M9SV-1K6:n37347434

The father's name is the same, Anton Appelt, but I think that the name of her mother is deferent.

[Xtine]

Hello,

Maria Anna Appelt:
Father Anton Appelt
Mother Klara, daughter of Joachim Häbner and Theresia Scholz


Franz Scheibler:
Mother, Maria Anna, daughter of Anton Appelt and Anna Rosina Seiboth


Maybe Anton Appelt get's two times married??? Or there must be annother Maria Anna Appelt

[Marcio Scheibler]

If Anton Appelt has been married twice, is possible appear, in the birth register of his grandson, the name of other wife?

If this Maria Appelt was daughter of Theresia Scholz, the mother's name should appear in the register of grandson too, but appear Anna Rosina Seiboth. Do you agree?

Hello,

Maria Anna Appelt:
Father Anton Appelt
Mother Klara, daughter of Joachim Häbner and Theresia Scholz


Franz Scheibler:
Mother, Maria Anna, daughter of Anton Appelt and Anna Rosina Seiboth


Maybe Anton Appelt get's two times married??? Or there must be annother Maria Anna Appelt

[Xtine]

Yes, I agree

Sometimes (2 to 3times) I found the name of the stepmother at the entries, but it's unusual, that's right.

Maybe there were two Anton Appelt

[franz ferdinand]

Maybe there were two Anton Appelt

Never exclude a priest´s mistake - sometimes names were unintendedly exchanged. Try to find other children of Anton Appelt to check their registers, this could help to verify the existance of two Anton Appelts.

LG Martin