[gelöst] Unreadable parts in an otherwise-Latin baptism, Hungary, 1788

[JPmiaou]

Quelle bzw. Art des Textes: Kirchenbuch
Jahr, aus dem der Text stammt: 1788
Ort und Gegend der Text-Herkunft: Triebwetter, Torontál, Ungarn
Namen um die es sich handeln sollte: Püchel/Büchel

This may belong on the foreign languages board, because the parts that I can decipher are in Latin, but the parts that I can't decipher sure as heck don't look Latin to me.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS6C-S9QM-L?i=133&cat=12620

FamilySearch Film 007994330 Image 134/588


1788
Mensis, dies: xbris 5
Baptizatus v. a: Catharina
Parentes: Veit Büchel corporal ... ... et Catharina conju.
Patrini: Maria Hrulin?, et Petrus Coster ...
Nrus Domus: --
Baptizans: Idem


Also, does anyone know anything about the father's given name? I've never encountered "Veit" before.

[Sinhuber]

Hallo,
I would read:
Veit Büchel corporal Von Anspach cürasier

Maria Haulin, et Petrus Coster Wachtmeister
Veit was a quite common first name.


Best regards
Christine

[Horst von Linie 1]

Veit

Hi,
the latin equivalent being VITUS.

[JPmiaou]

Thank you, Christine!
Google Translate is choking on "cürasier". It sounds annoyingly familiar, like I just need to tweak the spelling slightly and it'll show up in the dictionary, but I'm having no luck. Help?



Vitus is a name I know. Thanks, Horst.


(Looking through the marriage records from Triebwetter, I actually stopped and checked that no, I hadn't switched films or something, because suddenly all sorts of things were in French. I'll have to look into the history of the town: was it settled by French speakers, or was it just that one clerk or priest who wanted to show off his erudition?)

[DoroJapan]

Google Translate is choking on "cürasier". It sounds annoyingly familiar, like I just need to tweak the spelling slightly and it'll show up in the dictionary, but I'm having no luck. Help?

hello,

maybe this will help you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuirassier

cheers
Doro

[JPmiaou]

Thanks, Doro, that's exactly what I needed. (I was putting the 'i's in the wrong places, but I was thinking of the right word.)

[mcrichvienna]

Tomnatic (Triebswetter)

Dear "JP",

... I'll have to look into the history of the town: was it settled by French speakers, or was it just that one clerk or priest who wanted to show off his erudition?)

Tomnatic (Triebswetter) was founded in 1772 with settlers from Lothringen, whose Duke Franz Stephan married in 1736 the later Habsburg Empress Maria Theresa. From the area around Château-Salins come 62% of the Triebswetterer settlers. Others came from Elsass, aus der Pfalz, Baden and Bayern. Triebswetter was at the settlement a French village, but the French language was displaced within three generations to the German language. Triebswetter was the largest of the four "welschen" (french) villages in the Banat.

Also, does anyone know anything about the father's given name? I've never encountered "Veit" before.

The name "Veit" spread strongly in the Middle Ages in the German-speaking world to commemorate Saint Vitus, who lived as a pious man in the 3rd and 4th centuries and died as a martyr.

Best regards, Richard