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  • Ingerika
    Erfahrener Benutzer
    • 11.07.2008
    • 139

    Hilfe bei Einblick in Militärakten bei Ancestry

    Hallo, liebe Ancestrymitglieder,

    ich habe mit Wolfgang Horlbecks Hilfe (Danke nochmal) einen meiner Vorfahren bei Ancestry gefunden (Steuerliste) und nun beim weiteren Recherchieren entdeckt, dass es offensichtlich auch zwei Einträge in Militärunterlagen gibt.
    Würde einer von euch sich das einmal näher anschauen und mir sagen, ob es interessant ist?
    Folgende Daten habe ich bei der Ancestrysuche eingegeben:
    Frederick Ferner, Pennsylvania.
    Es kommt dann etwas bei "U.S.Civil War Sodiers".

    Danke euch.

    Gruß, Inge
  • alter Schwede
    Erfahrener Benutzer
    • 01.03.2009
    • 1534

    #2
    Hallo Inge !
    Das habe ich gefunden. Ist er das ?

    Name: Frederick Ferner
    Datum des Eintritts in die Armee: 19. Aug 1862
    Rang bei der Einberufung: Private
    Bundesland gedient: Indiana
    Wehrpass: Enlisted in Company K, Indiana 69th Infantry Regiment on 19 Aug 1862.
    Quellen: Report of the Adjutant General of the State of Indiana

    Regiment: 88th Infantry Regiment Pennsylvania
    Datum der Organisation: 1 Sep 1861
    Musterungsdatum: 30. Jun 1865
    Staat des Regiments: Pennsylvania
    Art des Regiments: Infantry
    Regimentnummer: 88th
    Getötete oder tödliche verletzte Offiziere: 8
    Offizier durch Krankheit oder Unfall verstorben: 0
    Soldat getötet oder tödlich verletzt: 101
    Soldat durch Krankheit oder Unfall verstorben: 72

    Name: Frederick Ferner
    Datum des Eintritts in die Armee: 11. Sep 1861
    Seite gedient: Union
    Bundesland gedient: Pennsylvania
    Wehrpass: Enlisted as a Private on 11 September 1861.
    Enlisted in Company H, 88th Infantry Regiment Pennsylvania on 11 Sep 1861.
    Killed Company H, 88th Infantry Regiment Pennsylvania on 30 Aug 1862 at 2nd Bull Run, VA.

    Bis dann ,
    Gruß alter Schwede


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    • Ingerika
      Erfahrener Benutzer
      • 11.07.2008
      • 139

      #3
      Oh ja, alter Schwede, das ist er! Hab vielen Dank!
      Was soll eigentlich der mittlere Text? Geht es da grundsätzlich um die Daten dieses Regiments?

      Gruß, Inge

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      • Ingerika
        Erfahrener Benutzer
        • 11.07.2008
        • 139

        #4
        Und noch eine Frage: Bekommt man diese Daten auf Ancestry tatsächlich auf Deutsch oder hast du das übersetzt?
        Inge

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        • alter Schwede
          Erfahrener Benutzer
          • 01.03.2009
          • 1534

          #5
          Hallo Inge !
          Ich habe die Daten so bekommen,also nicht übersetzt.
          Das Mittelstück beschreibt die Einheit in der er gedient hat.
          In dieser Einheit haben 1956 Soldaten gedient.
          Wenn ich noch was finde,poste ich es hier.
          Bis denne
          Gruß alter Schwede


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          Görtz, Schleswig-Holstein, Hamburg, Schweden

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          • alter Schwede
            Erfahrener Benutzer
            • 01.03.2009
            • 1534

            #6
            Hallo Inge !
            Hier noch der Bericht über das Gefecht in Richmond KY,
            leider in Englisch. Vieleicht überstzt dir das ja jemand.
            Nach den Daten ist der Herr bei diesem Gefecht gefallen.

            RICHMOND, KY
            AUG. 29TH - 30TH, 1862

            Richmond, Ky., Aug. 29 30, 1862. 1st and 2nd Brigades,
            Army of Kentucky. The battle of Richmond was one of the
            incidents of Bragg's invasion of Kentucky. When it was known
            that Bragg was moving northward a force of men had been
            hurriedly collected at Louisville and organized into the Army
            of Kentucky, under the command of Maj.-Gen. William Nelson.
            The Union forces at Richmond consisted of the 1st and 2nd
            brigades of this army, respectively commanded by Brig.-Gen. M.
            D. Manson and Brig.-Gen. Charles Cruft. Manson's brigade was
            composed of the 16th, 55th, 68th and 71st Ind. infantry, and
            Lanphere's battery. Cruft's was made up of the 12th and 66th
            Ind., 18th Ky. and 95th Ohio infantry and Andrews' battery.
            Many of the men were new recruits, unused to army discipline
            and unskilled in the arts of war. In the absence of Gen.
            Nelson the command of the two brigades devolved on Manson, who
            had established his headquarters about 2 miles from the town
            of Richmond. Here he received word at 11 a.m. on the 28th,
            that Munday's cavalry had encountered the enemy, some 5,000
            strong in the vicinity of Kingston. Manson sent word to
            Munday to hold the Confederates in check as long as possible,
            and ordered his whole brigade under arms. Reinforcements were
            sent out to the pickets, but about 2 p.m. the entire picket
            line was compelled to fall back toward the main body. South
            of Manson's camp were some high hills that completely
            commanded his position and he determined to move out and
            occupy these, to prevent their falling into possession of the
            enemy. When he had advanced about three-fourths of a mile a
            heavy column of Confederate cavalry was discovered some
            distance east of the road. Lieut. Lanphere was directed to
            open fire with the artillery, and a few well directed shots
            scattered the enemy in all directions. The brigade then moved
            forward and took up a position where the artillery commanded
            the road as far south as Rogersville, and awaited the
            appearance of the enemy. Again the battery opened fire and
            after a skirmish of about an hour the Confederates were forced
            to retire from the field, with a loss of a number of captured,
            together with several horses and a piece of artillery. Manson
            then moved his command to Rogersville, where the men
            bivouacked for the night, with orders to sleep on their arms.
            Col. Metcalfe with his cavalry, was sent out to pursue the
            retreating enemy. After following them for some 6 miles he
            encountered a cavalry picket who after a slight skirmish
            retired. Metcalfe lost 2 men killed and wounded.

            That evening Gen. Kirby Smith, commanding the
            Confederates, was reinforced by the arrival of Churchill's
            division, and decided to move to Richmond the next day, "even
            at the cost of a battle with the whole force of the enemy."
            Manson had sent word to maintain a strong picket on the
            Lancaster road, and to hold his command in readiness to move
            at a moment's notice. At 6 o'clock a.m. on the 30th, he found
            that the Confederates were advancing. He at once sent an
            order to Cruft to bring up his command as soon as possible,
            and placing himself at the head of the 55th Ind., moved out
            with his brigade to meet the Confederate column. About half a
            mile beyond Rogersville, near Mt. Zion church the enemy's
            advance was encountered and after a sharp skirmish was driven
            back. Manson then took possession of some woods and high
            ground on the left of the road and formed a line of battle.
            Skirmishers were thrown to the front and the enemy was held in
            check over an hour when it was discovered that a movement was
            under way to turn the left of the skirmish line. This was
            McCray's brigade of Churchill's division, which had almost
            gained a position on the flank before its presence there was
            discovered. At this juncture Cruft's brigade came on the
            field and Manson ordered him to send the 95th Ohio to the
            support of the skirmishers, while the 69th Ohio was sent
            against a battery that the enemy was trying to plant on a hill
            a short distance to the front and right. In attempting to
            take the hill the regiment was subjected to an enfilading fire
            that threw it into some confusion, and the enemy, prompt to
            take advantage of this circumstance, pressed forward with a
            heavy force, driving the right of the line from the field. At
            the same time the left was turned and for a short time it
            looked as if the Union troops were hopelessly defeated. But
            Manson, who was a veteran of the Mexican war, inspired
            confidence in his men by his heroic example, and after falling
            back for about a mile a new line of battle was formed on:
            White's farm, with Cruft's brigade on a ridge to the right of
            the road, the 1st brigade being formed some distance to the
            rear on the left of the road, with its battery in front. The
            first attack on thus position was made against Cruft's left,
            but it was repulsed by the 95th Ohio and 66th Ind., which
            formed that part of the line. The enemy now moved up through
            the woods and attacked the right of the brigade. Here the
            18th Ky. and 12th Ind., who had not been engaged in the first
            fight, stood their ground for some time, but finally yielded
            to overpowering numbers and fell back in disorder. The 1st
            brigade had already been driven from the field, and in a short
            time the whole army was flying toward Richmond. Manson and
            Cruft both rode to the front and tried to rally the men, but
            in vain. At Richmond Gen. Nelson was met and he assumed
            command. Most of the men had fled through the town, but about
            2,500 were rallied and a third line formed, the left resting
            on the state road near the tollgate, occupying the cemetery
            and thence running back into the woods on the right. The line
            was scarcely formed when the Confederates, elated by their
            first victory, again advanced to the attack. For a time the
            enemy was held in check by the skirmishers, but in a little
            while the attack became general and the Union lines broke and
            fled in confusion. It was now a case of "every fellow for
            himself." Before the attack was made at the cemetery the
            Confederate cavalry had gained a position in the Federal rear
            and as the fugitives rushed back into this enemy they were
            either killed or captured in large numbers. Gen. Cruft in his
            report says: "The account of the whole battle may be summed up
            in a few words. It was an attack by at least 15,000 well
            disciplined troops, under experienced officers, upon 6,250
            citizens, ignorant of war, without officers of experience.
            The wonder is that the latter fought so well for a whole day,
            could be twice rallied after being panic-stricken, and that
            any escaped slaughter or capture."
            The Union loss at Richmond was 206 killed, 844 wounded
            and 4,303 captured or missing. Gen. Manson himself was among
            the captured and all the artillery fell into the hands of the
            enemy. Kirby Smith reported his losses as being 98 killed,
            492 wounded and 12 missing.

            Source: The Union Army, vol. 6
            Gruß alter Schwede


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            Görtz, Schleswig-Holstein, Hamburg, Schweden

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            • Ingerika
              Erfahrener Benutzer
              • 11.07.2008
              • 139

              #7
              Hallo, alter Schwede,

              habe schon dies oder das über diese Schlacht gefunden, aber das noch nicht. Danke! Den Großteil werde ich wohl verstehen, nur mit bestimmten Sachbegriffen hapert es natürlich ein bisschen.

              Gruß,
              Inge

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              • Ingerika
                Erfahrener Benutzer
                • 11.07.2008
                • 139

                #8
                nochmal hallo, alter Schwede,

                ich habe nun den Bericht über die Schlacht gelesen und bin etwas verwundert. Das 88th Infantry Regiment Pennsylvania, in dem Frederick Ferner gedient hat, war hier anscheinend gar nicht dabei.
                Muss ich halt weitersuchen.

                Gruß,
                Inge

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                • alter Schwede
                  Erfahrener Benutzer
                  • 01.03.2009
                  • 1534

                  #9
                  OHH schiet !
                  Hier dir richtige !!

                  Regimentsgeschichte
                  PENNSYLVANIA
                  88TH INFANTRY
                  (Three Years)

                  Eighty-eighth Infantry.-Cols., George P. McLean, George
                  W. Gile Louis Wagner; Lieut.-Cols., Joseph A. McLean, George
                  W. Gile, Louis Wagner, Edmund A. Moss; Majs., George W. Gile,
                  D. A. Griffith, Benezet F. Foust, John S. Steeple, Aaron
                  Bright, Jr. The 88th regiment, three companies of which were
                  recruited in Berks county and the remainder in Philadelphia,
                  was known as the Cameron Light Guards and was mustered into
                  the U. S. service at Philadelphia in Sept., 1861 for a three
                  years' term. It was ordered to Washington on Oct. 1, and
                  assigned to guard duty at Alexandria, where it received its
                  arms and equipment. On Feb. 18, 1862, five companies were
                  detailed for garrison duty in forts on the Potomac, and on
                  April 17, the regiment, reunited, moved to Cloud's mills, to
                  guard the line of the Orange & Alexandria railroad from Bull
                  Run to Fairfax Court House. May 7, the command was ordered to
                  report to Gen. McDowell and assigned to Gen. Ricketts'
                  division, with which it fought at Cedar mountain, Thoroughfare
                  gap, the second Bull Run, Chantilly, Antietam and
                  Fredericksburg, its heaviest loss being at Bull Run, where 15
                  were killed, 102 wounded and 48 missing. It went into winter
                  quarters at Fletcher's Chapel and, with the exception of the
                  "Mud March," remained there until April 28, 1863, when it
                  started on the Chancellorsville movement. Its part in this
                  was not important, but its service at Gettysburg was brilliant
                  and resulted in the capture of the colors of the 16th Ala. and
                  23rd N. C. The regiment shared in the movements of the army
                  during the remainder of the year, ending with the Mine Run
                  campaign, after which it went into winter quarters at
                  Culpeper. Enough men reenlisted to insure the continuance of
                  the 88th as a veteran organization and on May 3, 1864, it
                  broke camp and spent the next three days in guarding wagon
                  trains on their way to the Wilderness. Engagements followed
                  in rapid succession at Spottsylvania, the North Anna river
                  Bethesda Church, Cold Harbor and White Oak swamp and on June
                  16, the command arrived at Petersburg. Here it was engaged on
                  June 18, and at the Weldon railroad in August, besides
                  performing arduous siege duties. In Feb., 1865, it joined in
                  the Hatcher's run movement being engaged at Dabney's mills and
                  afterward encamping on Hatcher's run. It participated in the
                  final assault on Petersburg and in the pursuit after the
                  evacuation of the city and returned to Washington, where it
                  was mustered out of the service on June 30, 1865.

                  Source: The Union Army, vol. 1
                  Gruß alter Schwede


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                  Kiese, Vogelsang Nimptsch Niederschlesien, Breslau
                  Görtz, Schleswig-Holstein, Hamburg, Schweden

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                  • Ingerika
                    Erfahrener Benutzer
                    • 11.07.2008
                    • 139

                    #10
                    Ah! Danke!

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