Maria Hemeldorp Kerspelbure c. 1764-1808 Eltern und taufe gesucht

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  • jdenotter3
    Benutzer
    • 02.03.2024
    • 5

    Maria Hemeldorp Kerspelbure c. 1764-1808 Eltern und taufe gesucht

    Hello everyone,

    I am searching for the parents of Maria Hemeltorf/dorf. She married in 1796 in Haarlem with Jan van Campen. At the time of her marriage, she was living in Heemstede but she was originally from "Kerspelbure in Munsterland".

    Schermafbeelding 2024-09-04 om 15.38.42.png

    She got 3 children, all of which were baptised catholic in Haarlem.

    marriage 1796, sus: Maria van den Berg & Anna Sas
    1797 Femmetje (Femina) sus.: Bernardus Hemeldorp & Maria Eefers
    1804 Albertus, sus.: Joannes & Elisabeth van Campen
    1806 Matthia, sus.: Henricus de Coning & Maria de Waart.

    Of the witnesses, i think that Bernardus Hemeldorp & Maria Eefers are probably family of Maria.

    Maria died in 1808. she was 44 years old, so she was born circa 1764. The same year, in the orphan register, a niece of Maria is noted. It is also noted that there were no other relatives, so probably Bernardus Hemeldorp & Maria Eefers had already died.
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    I cant read the surname of her niece, although her first name is Gezina.

    But what could be the origins of Maria? Could she be from Kessebüren, a small village near Unna? The only catholic church nearby is the St. Catharina in Unna, and i have looked in the period 1756-1776 and i didnt find a single person named Hemeltorf/dorf.

    Could she perhaps be from the region Kerspel Büren?



    I am looking forward for help and new insights regarding the parents and origin of Maria Hemeldorp,

    Jasper den Otter
  • hschmauck
    Erfahrener Benutzer
    • 15.06.2023
    • 1556

    #2
    Hi Jasper,

    that's a difficult question. It is possible that "Kerspel" is not part of the village's name, but stands for "Kirchspiel" = parish.
    I would rule out both Unna-Kessebüren and Büren as origins, as both places belonged to the Archdiocese of Paderborn and therefore not to Münsterland.

    There are two small places called Büren in the diocese of Münster:
    Büren (Gescher) and Büren (Stadtlohn) but unfortunately neither had its own church at that time, so there was probably no parish of Büren there either.

    However, it might be the parish of Buer, today a district of Gelsenkirchen and at that time part of the diocese of Münster. Unfortunately I can't find any church registers online.

    Best regards,
    Heiko

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    • TG23
      Erfahrener Benutzer
      • 03.11.2023
      • 255

      #3
      Hello,

      as Hschmauck already suggested "kerspelbure" most certainly means something along the lines of "Kirchspiel Bure" in Plattdeutsch. That would be the local language most people spoke at that time in that region.

      There was a small village named Burlo (now part of the City of Borken). It belonged to the diocese of Münster and had its own church at that time. The church books are online. You can find all Info here.

      https://wiki.genealogy.net/Burlo_(Borken)

      ​​​​

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      • Horst von Linie 1
        Erfahrener Benutzer
        • 12.09.2017
        • 23852

        #4
        Zitat von hschmauck Beitrag anzeigen
        It is possible that "Kerspel" is not part of the village's name, but stands for "Kirchspiel" = parish.
        Das Wörterbuch NL/D sagt Pfarre oder Gemeinde.
        Falls im Eifer des Gefechts die Anrede mal wieder vergessen gegangen sein sollte, wird sie hiermit mit dem Ausdruck allergrößten Bedauerns in folgender Art und Weise nachgeholt:
        Guten Morgen/Mittag/Tag/Abend. Grüß Gott! Servus.
        Gude. Tach. Juten Tach. Hi. Hallo.

        Und zum Schluss:
        Freundliche Grüße.

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        • hschmauck
          Erfahrener Benutzer
          • 15.06.2023
          • 1556

          #5
          Zitat von TG23 Beitrag anzeigen
          There was a small village named Burlo (now part of the City of Borken). It belonged to the diocese of Münster and had its own church at that time. The church books are online. You can find all Info here.​​​
          Unfortunately the church books with baptisms start online at 1833:



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          • jdenotter3
            Benutzer
            • 02.03.2024
            • 5

            #6
            Hello Everyone,

            thanks for all your awnsers.

            I also knew that a kerspel was a kirchspiel. Sadly it looks like she sadly is from somewhere in the kirchspiel of Münster. I was hoping someone here would recognise her name and would know a more precise location. Can someone read the name of her cousin Gezina? Maybe we can find her or her ancestors.


            gr. Jasper

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