how to locate my Aunt's children

[ParibasWest]

I know my Aunt's birth name not married name. I have good information about her marriage but I cannot obtain a copy of the marriage certificate because I am not a direct descent. My father is no longer alive.

I respect the privacy laws but I want to know and contact my cousins.
Any suggestions?

[OliverS]

What time we are talking about?
What name and where are they from?
give us a little bit more information so we can have a look at.
If the dates are in closed documentd, than there is nearly no chance on official ways.
birth 110years, marriage 80years and death 30years, are the timescales where documents are forbidden.
regards
oliver

[ParibasWest]

My aunt was born in 1911, married in 1939 and widow in 1945. Her second marriage was in 1949. Her children, if she had any, would be in their 60s or 70s.

Frankfurt am Main is the location and I have the reference numbers which I faxed and the official response is that they cannot give me the marriage records.

Is there any way I can learn the names of the children?

[OliverS]

Not on official way, because, as i wrote, the details are closed for personal rights - born in 1911 - 110years closed - means you can ask for them at year 2022.
But - the marriage in 1939 + 80 years - you can ask officially for them at year 2019.
What´s the name of your aunt? Maybe we can have a look at old phonebooks or something like that for you.

[ParibasWest]

Oliver,
Thank you for the information. It would be worth a try in phonebooks for Frankfurt if you are willing to research.

Her birth name is Maria Theresia Holzmeister born 1911 in Frankfurt. The time period of 1939 to 1949 was difficult.
Thank you for your attention!
Gloria

[Xtine]

Hello Gloria,

it does'nt help you now, but perhaps in a few years.
Here you will find the register of Frankfurt online: http://lagis.online.uni-marburg.de/d...tr?q=Frankfurt
But unfortunately for personal rights the period you are looking for is not online yet.

[Vogelsberger]

Was her father Georg Holzmeister? He lived Schulstraße 48 in 1941, when did he die? Maybe Maria annonced his dead. Has she had a brother Sebastian?

Greetings

[ParibasWest]

Was her father Georg Holzmeister? He lived Schulstraße 48 in 1941, when did he die? Maybe Maria annonced his dead. Has she had a brother Sebastian?

Greetings

Georg was her father. I found his death record dated 1950 and they lived at that address. Aunt Theresia did not sign his death record. I may have seen the name Sebastian but I am not certain if or how he is related to us.

If you have any additional information, I would like that!
Regards, Gloria

[Vogelsberger]

Hi Gloria,

Georg Holzmeister, born 9. March 1971 in Cronberg, died on 6. December 1950 at 6 pm in his flat on colon cancer. His death was annonced by his wife Katharina born Marx.

http://dfg-viewer.de/show/?tx_dlf%5Bid%5D=http%3A%2F%2Fdigitalisate.hadis.hessen.de%2Fhstam%2F903%2F11238.xml&tx_dlf%5Bpage%5D=124&tx_dlf%5Bdouble%5D=0&cHash=28184e234d5cd3b60c1c495fcee142ee

He was catholic, which is not very common in Frankfurt. Maybe the catholic church there has more informations about him and his children?

Greetings

[Xtine]

Hello Gloria,

and here is the marriage record of Georg and Katharina

http://dfg-viewer.de/show/?id=8071&tx_dlf%5Bid%5D=http%3A%2F%2Fdigitalisate.hadis.hessen.de%2Fhstam%2F903%2F9640.xml&tx_dlf%5Bpage%5D=192

There is a note of only one daughter, this must be your aunt:
Maria Theresia
born 25.11.11 in Frankfurt/M Nr. V/2217
1. Marriage 1.8.1939 in FFM Nr. I/847
widowed 26.5.1945
2. Marriage 23.7.1949 FFM Nr. I/607

[ParibasWest]

Hello Gloria,

and here is the marriage record of Georg and Katharina

http://dfg-viewer.de/show/?id=8071&tx_dlf%5Bid%5D=http%3A%2F%2Fdigitalisate.hadis.hessen.de%2Fhstam%2F903%2F9640.xml&tx_dlf%5Bpage%5D=192

There is a note of only one daughter, this must be your aunt:
Maria Theresia
born 25.11.11 in Frankfurt/M Nr. V/2217
1. Marriage 1.8.1939 in FFM Nr. I/847
widowed 26.5.1945
2. Marriage 23.7.1949 FFM Nr. I/607

I have tried to obtain a copy of the marriage records to find out her last names but as you can tell from previous posts I cannot do that for a few years.

Are church records a source? How would I do that inquiry?

Thank you everyone for you help!!

[lisetta]

Church records are still sources - but the "forbidden times" are (for catholic books) even longer:
120 years after baptizing
100 years after marriage
40 years after death


But what about the death record of her first husband? We don´t know the name, but we know the date: 1945 - 05-26. That was a few days after the end of the war in Germany. I don´t know anything about researches of that time, but I think there must exist lists of dead soldiers? Or - if the husband wasn´t in the army (perhaps because of illness, age or something like that) you could ask the archive of Frankfurt.

[OliverS]

The death records are online, six different Frankfurt Register, I checked all in that timearea but no entry was found.
maybe he was a soldier and thouse entrys were made month or years later

here they are:

http://www.lagis-hessen.de/en/subjects/gsearch/pageSize/50/sn/pstr?q=frankfurt+1946&submit=LAGIS-Suche

[ParibasWest]

The death records are online, six different Frankfurt Register, I checked all in that timearea but no entry was found.
maybe he was a soldier and thouse entrys were made month or years later

Thank you for checking the registers. Maybe he was a soldier.

I would like to contact my cousins! No bad feelings only good ones.
Gloria

[ParibasWest]

This idea may not be practical but I will post it anyway. Are there any resources that have names of people trying to locate family members from WWII? I know the time was long ago but that is the current situation. Or are there other sources for people trying to find missing family?

I have a photo of Maria Theresia dated 1930 when she was about 19 years old.

Regards,
Gloria