Glock aus Niederstetten

[Gary]

Die Suche betrifft das Jahr oder den Zeitraum: 1798
Genauere Orts-/Gebietseingrenzung: Niederstetten
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My ancestor Johann Jakob Glock born 1798 Niederstetten emigrated from Germany and ended up in England sometime between 1814-1822 but I have no idea how he got here or when? I have looked on several sites and cannot find anything on him. Any ideas please?

Gary

[Manfred Renner]

G l o c k

Hi Gary ,

hope , the following data may help you with your research.

Best regards from Hamburg , Germany ,

Manfred

Johann Jakob GLOCK , b. 8 July 1798 in Niederstetten , d. Dec 1884
married ( 1 ) c. 1825
Sarah N. N. , b. 1805
Children :
1 Jacob Frederick , b. 1826 in Hackney , m. ( 1 ) 21 Sep 1847 Jane E. STANLEY , ( 2 ) 1876 Rosina HALL
2 Mary Elizabeth , ch 18 Sep 1831 in Deptford , St. Paul
3 Sophia Margaretta , ch 29. Sep 1833 in Deptford

Johann Jakob GLOCK married ( 2 ) 17 Dec 1835 in Bermondsey St. James
Jane ABBOTT , b. C. 1811 , d. Sep 1866
Children :
1 John William , ch 26 May 1836
2 Jane Ann , ch 04 Nov 1838 , d. 1925 , m. 24 Dec 1858 ( in Deptford St. Paul ) ( 1 ) James Stephen CREED , ( 2 ) Robert MOUNT
3 John Edward Henry, ch 26. Jan 1845 Greenwich, d. 1907, m. 1869 ( Poplar ) Elizabeth H. , b. 1850
4 Harriet Amelia , ch 16 April 1848

Parents of Johann Jacob GLOCK :
Johann Georg Michael GLOCK , Rotgerbermeister , Schneidmüller , Feldschieder , des äußeren ( 1778 ) und des inneren Rats ( 1802 ) in Niederstetten ; b. 17 April 1742 in Niederstetten , d. 26 Mar 1814 in Niederstetten. He married firstly 23 Aug 1770 in Niederstetten
Maria Magdalena STÜMPFIG , b. 25 May 1750 , d. 4 Nov 1779 in Niederstetten
Children :
1 Georg Michael , b. 15 July 1774 , d. 27 July 1775
2 Dorothea Magdalena , b. 22 July 1775 , d. 19 Oct 1779
3 Georg Michael , b. 15 Feb 1778 , d. 3 Nov 1779
Johann Georg Michael GLOCK married secondly 20 June 1780 in Niederstetten
Margaretha Barbara SCHUMM , b. 30 Dec 1757 in Niederstetten , d. 18 May 1814 in Niederstetten
Children , born in Niederstetten :
1 Johann Georg Michael , b. 9 June 1781 , d. 1 Oct 1781
2 Charlotte Rosina Dorothea , b. 1 Aug 1782 , d. 2 Aug 1782
3 Dorothea Magdalena , b. 22 June 1784 , d. 30 June 1784
4 Johann Georg Michael , b. 7 Sep 1786 , d. 10 Feb 1859 in Niederstetten , m. 10 Jan 1815 in Niederstetten Sophie Margarete FLECK , b. 30 Jan 1795 in Niederstetten, d. 18 Feb 1875 in Niederstetten
5 Johann Andreas , b. 2 Mar 1788 , d. 11 Nov 1792
6 Dorothea Magdalena , b. 15 May 1790 , d. 4 July 1790
7 Dorothea Magdalena , b. 9 June 1791 , d. 26 June 1864 in Niederstetten , m. 24 Jan 1815 in Niederstetten Johann Georg STREITBERGER , b. 28 Jan 1789 , d. 26 Oct 1859 in Niederstetten
8 Johann Georg , b. 20 Oct 1792 , d. 20 Nov 1792
9 Johann Andreas , b. 26 May 1794 , d. 16 Sep 1855 in Niederstetten ; m. ( 1 ) 10 Feb 1820 in St. Georg , London , Anna GRIGG , b. 1799 in London , d. 20 Apr 1829 in London
Johann Andreas married ( 2 ) 6 May 1830 in London Eva Katharina HEIß , b. 9 July 1799 in Niederstetten , d. 6 Dec 1869 in Niederstetten
10 Dorothea Christiana , b. 05 Feb 1796 , d. 27 Jan 1853 in Niederstetten , m. 29 Aug 1815 in Niederstetten Johann Conrad CREGLINGER , b. 25 Feb 1786 in Niederstetten , d. 5 Dec 1864 in Niederstetten
11 Christina Margaretta , b. 17 May 1797 , d. 24 May 1797 in Niederstetten
12 Johann Jakob , b. 8 July 1798 ( see above )
13 Johann Philipp , b. 28 Mar 1800 ( see below ⬇ ! )
14 Johann Georg , b. 9 May 1802

Parents of Johann Georg Michael GLOCK ( b. 17 April 1742 ) :
Johann Andreas GLOCK , Rotgerbermeister , des äußeren Rats , Bürgermeister ( Mayor ) 1755 in Niederstetten , b. 28 Feb 1707 in Niederstetten, d. 12 Jan 1773 in Niederstetten. Married ( 1 ) 13 Sep 1735 in Niederstetten Barbara Marie DILL , b. 21 April 1708 in Niederstetten , d. 20 Nov 1751 in Niederstetten.
Children , born in Niederstetten :
1 Anna Sophia , b. 20 May 1736 , d. 17 Jan 1739
2 Sophie Barbara , b. 2 July 1737
3 Eva Barbara , b. 9 June 1739 , d. 18 April 1743
4 Johann Georg Michael , b. 17 April 1742
5 Johann Andreas , b. 1 Jan 1745 , d. 18 June 1814 in Niederstetten , m. 26 April 1774 in Niederstetten Magdalena Barbara SCHUMM , b. 5 July 1752 in Niederstetten , d. 17 Oct 1826 in Niederstetten
6 Anna Magdalena Barbara , b. 23 Feb 1746 , d. 19 Mar 1747

Johann Andreas GLOCK ( b. 28 Feb 1707 ) married ( 2 ) 25 April 1752 in Niederstetten Eva Barbara HORNBERGER
Children , born in Niederstetten :
1 Johann Daniel , b. 21 Jan 1755 , d. 24 Aug 1761
2 Magdalena Barbara , b. 9 Oct 1757 , d. 31 Mar 1761
3 Johann Philipp , b. 4 Dec 1760 , d. 20 April 1814 , m. 8 April 1788 in Niederstetten Maria Margareta Barbara BALBACH , b. 4 Aug 1764 in Niederstetten , d. 16 Aug 1821 in Niederstetten
4 Charlotte Barbara , b. 6 Sep 1763 , d. 23 July 1769
5 Johann Georg , b. 10 July 1765 , d. 23 July 1769
6 Johann Christoff , b. 15 Jan 1769 , d. 16 April 1849 , m. 22 Oct 1801 in Niederstetten Magdalena Catharina WEIGEL , b. 5 June 1774 auf dem Bulenhof, Gemeinde Niederstetten , d. 15 Mar 1843 in Niederstetten.

Parents of Johann Andreas GLOCK ( b. 28 Feb 1707 ) :
Johann Georg ( Hans Jörg ) GLOCK , Rotgerber und des äußeren Rats , Beisitzer in Niederstetten, b. 10 Feb 1665 in Bächlingen , d. 7 Aug 1708 in Niederstetten, married firstly 4 Nov 1690 in Niederstetten Magdalena N. N. , widowed NÖRR , b. 3 Dec 1645 in Niederstetten , d. 15 Nov 1696 in Niederstetten.
Child :
Anna Klara , b. 8 Aug 1691 , d. 21 Aug 1691
Johann Georg ( Hans Jörg ) GLOCK married secondly 23 Feb 1697 in Niederstetten Anna Susanna KÖTTLER , b. 18 April 1674 in Niederstetten , d. 14 Mar 1741 in Niederstetten.
Children, born in Niederstetten :
1 Charlotte Catharina , b. 12 Dec 1697
2 Hans Jakob , b. 27 Nov 1698
3 Anna Maria , b. 28 July 1700 , d. 8 Oct 1700
4 Johann Georg , b. 14 Aug 1701 , d. 11 Sept 1701
5 Johann Friedrich , b. 11 Aug 1702
6 Hans Georg , b. 27 Jan 1705 , d. 18 Aug 1705
7 Johann Andreas , b. 28 Feb 1707 ( see above )

Parents of Johann Georg ( Hans Jörg , b. 10 Feb 1665 ) :
Simon GLOCK , Rotgerbermeister und Gastwirt in Bächlingen , b. 20 Sept 1639 in Langenburg ,
in Bächlingen, married 17 Mar 1663 in Oberregenbach Clara ABEL , b. 16 April 1640 in Oberregenbach ,
d. 13 Feb 1692 in Bächlingen.
Children :
1 Elisabeth , b. 15 Nov 1663 in Ingelfingen
2 Johann ( Hans ) Georg , b. 10 Feb 1665 ( see above )
3 Anna Maria , 6 Jan 1671 in Bächlingen
4 Rosina , b. 18 Jan 1673 in Bächlingen , d. April 1675
5 Hans Simon , b 11 April 1675 in Bächlingen
6 Antonius , b. 24 Jan 1678 in Bächlingen

Parents of Simon GLOCK ( b. 20 Sept 1639 ) :
Antonius ( III. ) GLOCK , b. 01 Nov 1595 in Ingelfingen , d. 11 Oct 1662 in Langenburg
Bürger und des Gerichts in Langenburg , Bäcker seit 1625 , Bürgermeister ebd. 1650
Married 19 July 1625 in Ingelfingen
Praxedis SCHNERR , b. 24 Dec 1606 in Langenburg , d. 01 Nov 1662 in Langenburg
Children :
1 Anna Margaretha , bp ( baptized ) 20 July 1626 in Langenburg
2 Jörg Antonius , bp. 7 Sept 1630 in Langenburg
3 Johannes Christofferus , bp. 1632 in Langenburg
4 Johannes , bp. 28 April 1634 in Langenburg
5 Praxedis , bp 27 Feb 1657 in Langenburg
6 Simon , b. 20 Sept 1639 in Langenburg ( see above )

Parents of Antonius ( III. ) GLOCK :
Antonius ( II. ) GLOCK , b. 20 Jan 1569 in Ingelfingen , d. 29.02.1648 in Ingelfingen
Gastgeber und gemeiner Schieder , 1593 als Bürger in Ingelfingen verpflichtet
Married 2 May 1592 in Ingelfingen
GRAßMÜLLER , Ursula , b. um 1568 in Nagelsberg, d. 20.01.1636 in Ingelfingen
Children , born in Ingefingen :
1 Hannes , b. 1 May 1594
2 Anton ( III. ) , b. 1 Nov 1595
3 Conrad , b. 17 Feb 1599
4 Michel , b. 28 Jan 1602
5 Simon , b or bp. 24 Oct 1604
6 Georg , b or bp. 17 Oct 1607
7 Abraham , b or bp 11 July 1610

Parents of Antonius ( II. ) GLOCK ( b. 20 Jan 1569 ) :
Antonius ( I. ) GLOCK , b. about 1525 , d. 23.11.1591 in Ingelfingen
Gastgeber zu Ingelfingen
Married 1556
Barbara N. N. , b. 1538 , d. 01.11.1583 in Ingelfingen
Children :
1 Jörg , b. before 1552 in Ingelfingen , married Anna DIROLFF
2 Clara , b. before 1557 in Ingelfingen
3 Hans , b. before 1557 in Ingelfingen
4 Margareta , b. before Aug 1557 in Ingelfingen
5 Barbara , b. 10 Nov 1559 in Ingelfingen
6 Ursula , b. 21 Oct 1561 in Ingelfingen
7 Simon , b. 13 Mar 1563 in Ingelfingen
8 Ursula , b. 29 Mar 1567 in Ingelfingen , married 1592 in Ingelfingen Albrecht LANG
9 Antonius ( II. ) , b 20 Jan 1569 ( see above )
10 Maria , b. 19 April 1571 in Ingelfingen
11 Michel , b. 9 May 1573 in Ingelfingen
12 Anna , b. 25 Sept 1578 in Ingelfingen

⬇
Johann Philipp GLOCK , Metzger ( butcher ) in the U. K. , b. 28 Mar 1800 in Niederstetten , d. Aug 1859 , married ( 1 ) in 1819 in U. K. Lydia N. N.
Child :
George Martin GLOCK , b. 1836 in Deptford , married Susannah Jane BOSTRIDGE
Children :
1 William Martin , b. 1859 in Greenwich , London
2 Susannah Jane , b. 1859
3 Mary Maria , b. 1862
4 Eliza Susannah , b. 1864
5 Mary Lydia , b. 1866

William Martin GLOCK , b. 1859 in Greenwich, London, U. K. , + 1929 in Lewisham, U. K. , married 1876 in Islington
Kate KEEFE
Child :
William George GLOCK , b. Dec 1877 in Islington , U. K.

William George GLOCK , b. Dec. 1877 in Islington, U. K., married 29 July 1904 in Solihull , U. K. Gertrude Annie MALTBY
Child :
William Frederick, b. 3 May 1908 in London , U. K.

( Sir ) William Frederick GLOCK , b. 3 May 1908 in London , U. K. , d. 28 June 2000 in U. K. , BBC controller of music , pianist , music critic , founder and director of the summer school of music at Bryanston , Dorset , founder of the periodical THE SCORE. From 1954 to 1958 chairman of the music section of the Institute for Contemporary Art. Artistic director of the British Festival from 1975 to 1984 and chairman of the London Orchestral Concerts Board from 1975 to 1986. Editor of Eulenburg books on music for Schott‘s from 1973 to 1986. Glock was appointed CBE ( Commander of the Order of the British Empire ) in 1964 and knighted in 1970 ( Sir William Glock ). He married ( 1 ) June 1944
Clement Davenport , d. Sept. 1852
William Frederick Glock married ( 2 ) Dec 1952 Anne Balfour Geoffreoy - Dechaume , d. 1995 .

Sources :
Heinrich Ehrmann , Ingelfingen
Updated by Peter R. Wadham , 1 , Sycamore Close , Chalfont St Giles , Buckinghamshire , HP8 4LF , England
E - Mail : < peter[at]wadham67.freeserve.co.uk >

[Michael]

It's Christmas time for Gary.

[Irmel]

Niederstetten

Hallo Gary,

hast Du denn Zugang zu den KB von Niederstetten?
Ich suche alle Hinweise zu ALTER (17. Jahrh.) und EHRMANN aus Bartenstein (18.J.), dessen KB zeitweise in Niederstetten mitgeführt wurden.

[Gary]

WOW ! What can I say ... thank you Manfred. That would have taken me a long time to find let alone reading the kurrent handwriting and understanding it.

Hi Irmel
I have access to the Niederstetten births/marriages/deaths 1573-1769. I will keep an eye out for Alter, Ehrmann and Bartenstein

Michael: I think that was christmas and birthday rolled into one.

[Irmel]

ALTER, Niederstetten

Hallo Gary,

that´s great that you have access to the books. We have to go to the Catholic Diözean Archiv in Rottenburg (not Rothenburg ob der Tauber), which is 2 1/2 hours to drive. This summer I had the chance to go, but I arrived at 10.30 a.m and they closed again at 12 until 13.30 and then at 16.30 again. Unfortunatelly I started with Bad Mergentheim first and when I just began to find important dates I had to leave again.
I found the baptisme of
Andreas Franciscus ALTER, 7 th January 1687, son of
Johann (Jois) Martin ALTER and Maria Barbara HARTMANN

It would be so kind of you, if you could check the family Alter for me. Thank you in advance.
My grandmother Alter´s family came to Hochhausen/Tauber before 1646. The first was a Johann (Hans) and was a shoemaker. Almost all males were named Johann with the first name, which makes it not easier. It was written from Waldstetten, which is uncertain, because my friend Ute Alter, who went to the Mormons Archiv was not good in reading the old German letters. I guess it might have been: Haldenbergstetten, which is the castle above Niederstetten, whioch would make sense, because there were no Alters in Waldstetten.

It would mean so much for me to find the connection.

Unfortunatelly at the very beginning of the Niederstettener Church Book there are several pages (ca. 8), which are so much blurred that it seems to be impossible the read them.
Anyway, every hint is highly appreciated as well as to EHRMANN.

There my earliest note is Melchoir EHRMANN, born 1756, son of Georg E.
Have to check the exact dates first.

Greetings from Tauberbischofsheim

[Irmel]

ALTER- Niederstetten

Habe gerade erst gemerkt, daß Manfred Renner die Auszüge aus dem KB beigesteuert hat, deshalb die gleiche Bitte auch an Dich. Falls Du mir weiterhelfen könntest, wäre ich überglücklich! Ich suche schon so lang! Außerdem sammle ich jede Information zu ALTER, auch aus dem Heilbronner Raum. Ich vermute mal, daß es Zufall ist, daß unser Familienwappen identisch ist mit dem der Grafen von Neipperg, aber vielleicht ist ja dort der Ursprung zu finden?

[Manfred Renner]

Alter

Hallo IRMEL ,

so sorry, leider habe ich keinen Zugang zu den KB Niederstetten ! Habe meine Daten
aus schriftlichen Nachrichten über die GLOCKs sowie auch von Peter Wadham aus
England. Werde die Augen offenhalten, falls ich ALTER - Ahnen finde und Dich dann
umgehend benachrichtigen.
Die Daten der NEIPPERGs wirst Du sicher schon haben !? Auch hier mal bei Leo van de
Pas vorbeischauen : < Genealogics - Leo van de Pas >

Herzlichen Gruss aus Hamburg ,

Manfred

[Jo-sefa]

Hallo Irmel,

hast Du schon mal bei den Batchnummern der Mormonen nachgesehen?

http://www.igi-index.de/index.php?seite=batch8&lang=uk&sort=ort&id=a

Viele Grüße
Josefa

[Irmel]

Dankeschön, Josefa,
da habe ich einen Tauf-Eintrag zu ALTER gefunden. Leider keine Heiratsmatrikel, das wäre aufschlußreicher gewesen. Leider sind bestimmt 10 Seiten des ältesten TBs nicht mehr lesbar, zumindest nicht auf den Mikrofiches. Es sieht so aus, als hätte diese Familie öfters den Wohnort gewechselt, da sozusagen im öffentlichen Dienst und versetzt worden.