Dorschke Familie von Ratibor, Oberschlesien

[briankaess22]

Mein Urgroßvater Viktor Dorschke (1889-1969) stammte aus Ratibor, Oberschlesien. Er war mit Marie Kokot (1897-1948) verheiratet und hatte sechs Kinder zusammen: Eduard, Maria, Angelika (Gela), Dorothea (Doris), Rudolf (Rudi), und Arnold. Eduard, Rudi und Arnold bedient alle im Militär des Dritten Reiches. Arnold Dorschke wurde gegen Ende des Krieges getötet 1945. Viktor und Adresse des Marie Dorschke während der Kriegszeit war Memel str. 13 in Ratibor.
Ich glaube, Viktor Dorschke und Marie Dorschke kann in Ratibor irgendwann um WWI verheiratet gewesen.
Weiß jemand, wo sie die Ehe Datensätze für Ratibor für diesen Zeitraum gehalten. Ich vermute stark, dass sie katholisch waren.

[briankaess22]

Victor Dorschke marriage entry

Marriage entry for Viktor Dorschke and Marie Kokot in a Catholic church in Markowitz, Upper Silesia:
10 Nov 1914: Viktor DROZDZIOK (from Hohenbirken, age 25) with Marie KOKOTT (from Adamowitz, age 18). Witness: Peter Halama and Igna[t]z Pannek, both from Raschütz. Viktor Dorschke appears to have changed his Polish name Drozdziok to Dorschke after the marriage.

[ponschonovi]

Hallo briankaess,

wahrscheinlich Off-Topic, aber in dem Ort in dem Ich arbeite gibt es einen
Zahnarzt KOKOT, evtl. Verwandtschaft?

Internette Forschergrüsse
Mick

[pehts]

Ich suche das Wohnhaus von Wilhelm und Franziska (geb. Baumgart) Kokot in Kunzendorf, Krs. Gross Wartenberg. Wo kann ich Ortspläne finden? In den Adressbüchern auf adressbuecher.genealogy.net findet sich nichts - gibt es weitere Seiten oder Archive dafür?

@briankaess und @ponschonovi: Gibt es Verbindungen zu den von ihnen genannten Kokots?

Gruß

[msm761]

Hallo pehts & ponschonovi,

der FN Kokot ist in Schlesien ein Allerweltsname.

msm

[briankaess22]

The parents of Marie Kokott/Kokot (1897-1948) were Karl Kokott and Marianna (last name unknown), from Adamowitz, Upper Silesia. The parents of Viktor Dorschke/Drozdzok (1889-1969) were Franz Drozdzok and Marianna Mandrisch, from Hohenbirken, Upper Silesia. Franz was a retired farmer living on the land. Marie Kokott was a factory worker. Karl Kokott may have been a forestry worker.
What I am looking for is more info on Franz Drozdzok and Marianna Mandrisch, and Karl Kokott and Marianna (last name unknown).
Marianna was a very common first name for Polish women in the 19th century, so it is not strange that both Marianna's were named thus.

[Weltenwanderer]

Hello Briankaess,

let's assume they were Catholics:

The registrar's office's files of Hohenbirken can be found here:
In the state archive of Kattowitz, branch archive Ratibor:
births 1874-1907, 1909-1912;
marriages 1874-1910;
deaths 1874-1884, 1886-1910.
Supplementary files for the following years can also be found in the State Archive:
1881, 1883, 1885-1886, 1888-1891, 1893-1901, 1906-1907, 1909-1912, 1914-1922, 1925, 1927-1930, 1935-1936, 1939-1941, 1943.
In the registrar's office (USC) of Ratibor:
births 1913-1945;
marriages 1911-1945;
deaths 1911-1945.

In terms of a Catholic church, Hohenbirken seems to have had an own church starting from around 1877, but there is no mention on my source site where these records are stored.
Before that, the place belonged to Pogrzebin. The records still seem to be stored in Porgzebin's Catholic church.

Cheers!
Weltenwanderer

[Anke Adler]

Dorschke

Hello Briankaess,

I knew a student in Ratibor, who is able to search for you in the Archiv from Ratibor. But no churchbooks only Standesamt from time :
births 1874-1907, 1909-1912;
marriages 1874-1910;
deaths 1874-1884, 1886-1910.
Supplementary files for the following years can also be found in the State Archive:
1881, 1883, 1885-1886, 1888-1891, 1893-1901, 1906-1907, 1909-1912, 1914-1922, 1925, 1927-1930, 1935-1936, 1939-1941, 1943.
If you are interested send me a message, then I will ask her.

Kind regards

Anke

[briankaess22]

To gain a perspective of what the Dorschke's might have exerienced after WWII, see the following work: A Terrible Revenge: The Ethnic Cleansing of the East European Germans, 1944–1950 , by Alfred-Maurice de Zayas, St. Martin's Press, New York, 2006.

[briankaess22]

The town history book for Ratibor is Ratibor- Stadt und Land and der oberen Oder. Ein Heimatbuch. Author is Alois Kosler, pub. 1980.

[briankaess22]

Viktor Dorschke in Ratibor

The following are from a 1938 address book for Ratibor, Germany.
1) page 38, listing Viktor Dorschke (Arbeiter) , Marie Dorschke (Arbeiterin) on Memel str. 13, and Eduard Dorschke, on Melfenweg 11.
2) page 198, listing residents of Memel str. 13, including Victor Dorschke.

Memel str. may also have been known as Bosatzer str. , which is located on the North side of Ratibor, North of the Oder River. This latter info comes from a book about Ratibor, called 'Ratibor, einst und jetzt', by Paul J. Newerla, pub. 1998.


The former "Bosatzer Straße" was renamed "Memelstrasse" in 1938. That's why you cannot find this street on the 1933 map. Memel str. shows up on a 1942 map of Ratibor.
Memelstraße was certainly in Ratibor - in the district OSTROG (since 1938 Raciborz-North) - not in Hohenbirken.

"Brzezie" - since about 1907 "Hohenbirken" - belonged to the district Ratibor. After the vote of 1921 Hohenbirken was separated in 1922 from Ratibor County and awarded to Poland (Rybnik). The village was again called "Brzezie" after 1926 - "Brzezie nad Odrą" (Brzezie an der Oder). In September 1939, when Poland was captured by German troops (and Poland was occupied), the name "Hohenbirken" came into being again. In 1945, when Upper Silesia became Polish, "Brzezie nad Odra" came again. In 1976, Brzezie was associated with the city of Racibórz.

[briankaess22]

Victor Dorschke (Drozdzok) in WWI

Victor Drozdzok (Dorschke), dob listed as 01.12.1889 and hometown as Hohenbirken, Upper Silesia, is mentioned in a newspaper account as Missing (Vermisst) on Apr 2 1919 from his Prussian Regiment. His unit is mentioned as Infanterie-Regiment 395 and the Liste as Preussen 1403.

[briankaess22]

Victor Drozdzok in WWI

Victor Drozdzok (later Dorschke), dob listed as 01.12.1889 and hometown as Hohenbirken, Upper Silesia, is mentioned in a newspaper account as Missing (Vermisst) on 1919-04-02 from his Prussian Regiment. His unit is mentioned as Infanterie-Regiment 395 and the Liste as Preussen 1403. Link to Newspaper: http://des.genealogy.net/search/show/7383489

[Anke Adler]

[QUOTE=briankaess;900845]Mein Urgroßvater Viktor Dorschke (1889-1969) stammte aus Ratibor, Oberschlesien. Er war mit Marie Kokot (1897-1948) verheiratet und hatte sechs Kinder zusammen: Eduard, Maria, Angelika (Gela), Dorothea (Doris), Rudolf (Rudi), und Arnold. Eduard, Rudi und Arnold

Hallo Brian,

die Geburtsurkunde kannst du im Archiv Ratibor bei einem Herrn Langer anfordern Standesamt Brzezie Nr.97/1889 Viktor Drozdzok
apraciborz@katowice.ap.gov.pl

Gruß Anke

[briankaess22]

Viktor Dorschke Nazi Party Documents

Attached is a document showing a 1934 copy of a Nazi Party name change document for Viktor Dorschke/Drozdzok.