Peter Schultz married to Mathilde Franziska Lenz

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I am researching my wifes family and would appreciate ANY help please with tracing details for Peter Schultz married to Mathilde Franziska Lenz in or aoround the 1820's.
They had the following children Otto Eduard 1849, Rudolph Ernst 1852 Hugo Reinhold 1853 and Friedrich Wilhelm 1855.
Also are there any living relatives of any of those named in the area.
Any help will be gratefully received.

Thank you cookie 14: P: Help:

[Andi1912]

... in the area ...

Hello cookie14,

Which area are you talking about? As you have not filled in the questionnaire, the area you are searching in has not been mentioned by you.

Kind regards, Andreas

[Juergen]

Hello cookie

probably a son Friedrich Wilhelm Schulz born 1855 in in Kolmar (poln. Chodzież) Provinz Posen?

klick --> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NXCF-T2S

looking online: evangelik Church Chodzież:
klick --> http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/53/3775/0...5#tabJednostki

here copie: Friedrich Wilhelm Schulz born in Chodzież, baptized 1855 in church Chodzież (Kolmar):
klick --> http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/53/3775/0...5oP0bHTCAUWx9A

Here other marriage 1850 Christoph SCHULZ oo Caroline LENZ ne MÜLLER, but not yours.
Father shaper Mathias SCHULZ death in Hammermühle.
--> http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/53/3775/0...k3IdJcn80fU6RA

looking for marriage Peter Schultz married to Mathilde Franziska Lenz in other books arround 1849. Good luck.

best regards
Juergen

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Thank you Andi and Juergen for your prompt replies.
I have no idea where Peter or Mathilde were born, but according to research so far Otto, Rudolph and Hugo were all from or born in Kolmar Posen and Friedrich in Gross Golle bei Wongritz ( hope that is correct).
Again, my thanks for your assistance.
Best regards Cookie14

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P.S.

Always assuming that the information on Ancestry .co.uk is correct!
My wife is the great grand daughter of one Rudolph Schultz who came to tha UK in about 1850. There were many named schultz who came to the north of England, mainly Hull. Anna was the daughter of Rudolph Schultz who was married to Floentina Faller

[Michael]

As you have not filled in the questionnaire, the area you are searching in has not been mentioned by you.

Hallo Andreas,
siehe meinen Hinweis im Unterform Baden-Württemberg.

[Juergen]

Hello again,

Father Peter SCHULZ was a Gendarm in Kolmar

Here copie born son Rudolph Ernst SCHULZ 1852 in Kolmar.
--> http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/53/3775/0...RbCt4vKfa38kYw

I have no idea where Peter or Mathilde were born, but according to research so far Otto, Rudolph and Hugo were all from or born in Kolmar Posen and Friedrich in Gross Golle bei Wongritz ( hope that is correct).

What? Friedrich SCHULZ born in Gross Golle Kreis Wongrowitz, not baptizted in Kolmar?

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My wife is the great grand daughter of one Rudolph Schultz who came to tha UK in about 1850

Then is this a other Rudolph SCHULZ, or perhaps family SCHULZ emigrated later 1855 to UK.

What says passengerlists to UK?

greeting Juergen

[cookie14]

Hi Juergen,
I hope the link will open up for you so that you can see how I have been working on the principle that Peter IS a distant relative!
Maybe I should sleep on it and start afresh tomorrow but I do want to thank ALL of you for showing interest.
Regards Cookie14

http://trees.ancestry.co.uk/tree/59136005/family?cfpid=40043256281

[Juergen]

Hello cooki,

no, we can not see entrys on acnestry.com (UK) without account.

I think, Peter Schulz married to Mathilde Franziska Lenz
not in Kolmar (Chodzież).

Peter Schulz was a Gendarm by Police or military in Kolmar (Chodzież).

Godfathers also often military persons.

1849 Godfathers are:
Friedrich Wilhelm DETTMANN - Unteroffizier
Ferdinand von Hassenkrug - Rentier
Sophie DUDECK.

see here --> http://szukajwarchiwach.pl/53/3775/0...0anymNp2qgDJRw

Who is von Hassenkrug? I dont know.
I never before see the name v. Hassenkrug.

regards Juergen

[cookie14]

Hi Juegen,
No never heard of v. Hassenkrug either!
I am now aware that the work required to trace 'older' members of the family can be time consuming however it is all very interesting! Sorry that the link did not open I will try to find another way to send it to you.
As a side issue can you say why so many people appeared to have left this part of Germany in the 1850's?
If you were able to look at The north of England about that time there was an influx from Germany.
As ever many thanks for your efforts and I trust that I am not keeping you away from more important matters.

Best regards Cookie14

[cookie14]

Hi Jeugen,

The only way I can think of sending this copy is by e-mail. ONLY if you agree.

My e-mail is ron_houghton5@msn.com


If you want to e-mail me I can try to reply with an attachment.

Don't worry if you think that this is a step too far

Regards Cooki

[Ostpreussin]

Hi Cookie14,

in Prussia the year 1850 marked the end of the "liberation of the peasants". The peasants and rural underclasses had been personally free since 1807, but the working obligations on the farms continued until 1850; These working obligations (labor and cart) were kind of bound to the farms, so when you were a small farmer you were a free man, but you still had to fulfill the obligation of working for the big (noble) land owners. That´s why after a first wave of emigration in the early 19th century, a second wave of emigration took place during the middle and late 19th century. Most People emigrated to the US, some to the UK, others to Australia etc.

Kind regards and good luck with your search.

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Hi Ostpreussin,

Thank you for clearing that point up. Very interesting, much like the 'clearances' in the Scottish Highlands many years ago.
Also thanks for your good wishes, and it is a very interesting task. My wife has spent many years wondering about her fathers ancestry and we have discovered many things, but still one or two more mysteries to uncover!

Best regards Cookie14

[Juergen]

Hello cookie,

i found F.D. von Hassenkrug in Berlin 1852. (probaly godfather for Otto Eduard SCHULZ, baptized 19. August 1849 in Kolmar)
--> http://digital.zlb.de/viewer/image/1.../176/LOG_0021/

He lived from his capital (Renten). He is no a poor man.
Is like Sudoko, or Bingo.

But who is this noble family "von HASSENKRUG"?

Juergen

[cookie14]

Hi Juergen,
IF V. Hassenkrug was a wealthy man it must have stayed with him, because we never saw any of it!

Another myth exploded YES the German people DO have a sense of humour!!!

Like the song goes I'm Bewitched, Bothered and Bewildered by all of this, but hey ho tomorrow is another day.

Wife says to tell you that she is driving me mad walking around the house humming the German National Anthem that is why I am doing this to shut her up!

Must close now early night and also have to remove the German Flag from the garden.

Best regards Cookie (Do you want me to try to send the tree to you?)