Looking for the birth and bapism Maxmillian Kronemann and his migratin to America abt 1888

[bjornlokken]

Dear forum and awsome helpers

According to Maxmillian Kronemann 's site on Ancestry he was born 5 december 1874 in Lubzine - Stettin in Pommern in Germany

His site on ancestry :

https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/51212954/person/222463407355/facts

Can somebody help me find his birth and baptizm in a churchbook and give me a link to this ?

So i can get his parents name and where they live .

According to 1930 census for Fergus Falls in Otter Tail County in Minnesota his migration was in 1888 .

1930 census

https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/6224/images/4610065_00546?pId=78870094

Can somebody help me find him in a ship manifest and emigration notice in German Church book or another protocoll ?

If so i need a link to this find's too

Thank you so very much if somebody will help me . It will be very appricated

Best regards from Bjørn Løkken in Norway

[Gastonian]

Hi Bjørn:


Departure from Hamburg 1888: https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui...w/3023961:1068



Arrival in New York 1888: https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui...w/7971677:7488


Was traveling with mother Ernestine and two younger siblings. Per Hamburg passenger list they had been living in Bjöllerup, Schleswig; this is almost certainly Bjolderup in present-day Denmark (https://da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bjolderup_Sogn).


According to his obituary (https://www.newspapers.com/article/t...one/136423411/) he was born 5 Dec 1874 in Stettin.


Also not yet linked in that family tree is the 1900 census record for him (https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui.../35942356:7602), where he was in household of father William Kronemann; mother here is called Augustine rather than Ernestine (that this is correct family is shown by fact that sister Ida is listed with correct age, who also was on the the two shipping lists; also mother has correct age).


Mvh


--Carl-Henry

[bjornlokken]

Thank you very much for your reply and your important and great findings Carl Henry. This was super cool and kind of you.

Do you think it is possible to find his birth in the church register too?

With the best and warmest greetings from Bjørn in Norway

[OlliL]

Stettins birth civil registration registers are available starting with around october 1874. Before that time only churchbooks are available indeed.


Ancestry reveals that no Kronemann birth was registerd in December 1874 in Stettin. I would assume that he might be from "within the region" around Stettin but obviously not born in Stettin itself.


Do you have any idea where his siblings Edmund (~1879) and Ida (~1880) where born?
It might also be a good idea to start digging into Bjolderup records about them. Maybe those records can shed some light into this issue as well. But to be honest - I have no idea if and where they could possibly be accessed.

[Gast]

Ancestry reveals that no Kronemann birth was registerd in December 1874 in Stettin. I would assume that he might be from "within the region" around Stettin but obviously not born in Stettin itself.

Möchte nur anmerken, daß im Standesamt I zu Berlin von Stettin die Register von 21 (!) Standesämtern liegen. Und Du bist sicher, daß alle die, die im Oktober 1874 mit der Führung begonnen haben, auch erhalten blieben. Sonst wäre Deine Feststellung, weil Ancestry seine Ge-Urkunde nicht hat, er damit nicht in der Stadt selbst geboren worden ist, hinfällig.

Du hast recht, er wurde außerhalb der Stadt geboren!

Urkunde anbei.

[Gastonian]

Great find, Peter!


Bjørn, here is the translation of that birth certificate:


Lübzin, 11 December 1874
Before the undersigned civil registry official appeared today, known to us, the midwife Mrs. Wilhelmine Grade, resident of Lübzin, and reported that to Johanne Ernestine Wilhelmine Kronemann nee Beske, wife of miller [?] Johann Ernst Wilhelm Heinrich Kronemann, Protestant, resident with her husband, was born at Louisenthal in the residence of her husband on 5 December of the year 1874 in the morning around 1:30 a male child, who received the names Max Karl Albert. Mrs. Grade declared, that she was present at the birth of Mrs. Kronemann's child.
Read, approved, and signed
W. Grade
The civil registry official
[illegible signature]
Agreement with the main registry certified
Lübzin, 11 December 1874
The civil registry official
[illegible signature]


Also, here is birth record of the father: https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui...ew/531028:8798


And birth record of the mother: https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui...ew/542595:8798


Mvh


--Carl-Henry

[bjornlokken]

Dear Carl Henry og RLP Peter og OLLI L

Awesome finds . Thank you so very much for helping me . This is great . Love you all

Then i only are missing the parents wedding in a church protocoll - is it possible to find this too ?



Best very best regards from Bjørn in Norway

[Gast]

Datum haben wir, ich weiß nur noch nicht, woher die Mormonen die Trauung haben:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6FTR-HDV9

Vielleicht von hier:

https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/347315?availability=Family%20History%20Library

Ja, von dort - siehe Anhang.

Falls es zu klein ist, dann nach hier:

https://www.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/de/jednostka/-/jednostka/7927930?_Jednostka_delta=200&_Jednostka_resetCur=false&_Jednostka_cur=2&_Jednostka_id_jednostki=7927930

Skan 269

[OlliL]

@RLP-Peter Du warst schneller - ich hing auf Arbeit fest und hab schon geahnt das sie im Buch von Lübzin sein müsste
Ansonsten - entgegen vieler anderer Gebiete östlich der Oder ist der Erhaltungszustand der StA-Register in Stettin erstaunlich gut. Wenn man also Indizierungsfehler außen vor lässt kann man sich da schon recht gut drauf verlassen.


Ansonsten die Mutter der Mutter Beske hat den FN Ramthun - den habe ich auch in meinem Baum - allerdings aus Treptow an der Rega.

[OlliL]

@bjornlokken

Are you already aware of this familysite which claims to have images of the Kronemanns?

https://www.ancestry.de/family-tree/person/tree/159805201/person/432096210561/facts

And additionally:
Grave: https://de.findagrave.com/memorial/3...elem-kronemann
Last will: https://www.ancestry.de/discoveryui-...=successSource
More (to be proved) history of Johann Ernst and Ernestine: https://www.ancestry.de/family-tree/...89508321/facts

ha det bra!

[bjornlokken]

Dear RLP- Peter and OLLIL thank you so much for helping med . This is great and it's very appricated .

Best regards and love from Bjørn in Norway