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  • John Clifford
    Benutzer
    • 27.08.2008
    • 13

    Familienname Fibranz oder ähnlich

    Mein Großvaters Vater heist Theodor Fibranz. Er wurde in August 1861 geboren. In 1884 war er nach VSA umgezogen und in November 1885 verheiratet er Augusta Vandersee. Er starb in Juli 1922 in Chicago.

    Ich habe in AncestryUSA und DNAAncestry keine Fibranz-leute gefunden. Gleichfals mit GEDmatch und FTDNA.

    Ich suche Ankunft über Theodors Geburtsort und Familie. Ich meine daß er in Pommern geboren wurde aber bin ich nicht sicher. Ich meine auch daß sein Vaters Name Fredrick war.

    Vielen Dank,

    John Clifford
    Schottland
  • Anna Sara Weingart
    Erfahrener Benutzer
    • 23.10.2012
    • 16940

    #2
    Hello,
    here is a hint: (pic 1)

    Trettow = maybe Treptow.
    There a two in Pommern

    1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trzebiat%C3%B3w

    2) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trzebi...targard_County

    Quotation:
    "Theodore Fibranz, who, through his industrious efforts and honest dealings, has acquired a valuable property in Arthur township, is one of the old settlers of Traverse county. He is a man of enterprise and strict integrity and has gained the confidence and esteem of his associates. Mr. Fibranz was born in Germany, in 1861. His father, Fred Fibranz, was of German birth and followed farming in his native land."

    Citation: Compendium of History and Biography of Central and Northern Minnesota, 1904, page 742 (pic 2)

    Theodore F.
    Census 1900 - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M9Q9-J3C
    Census 1920 - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJ35-JX9
    Death - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q237-L2JB

    He immigrated in the year 1881. (Not in 1884). Maybe there are passenger lists on which his place of origin is named?

    There was a farmer named Fred Fiebranz in Pommern in the village of Briesnitz in the mid of the 19th century (pic 3)

    village of Briesnitz (today: Brzeźnica, Szczecinek County)
    OpenStreetMap is a map of the world, created by people like you and free to use under an open license.


    map of the year 1914: (pic 4)

    Hello
    the church books of the village of Briesnitz (parish Baldenburg) were destroyed in the world war around the year 1945

    sources:



    Many church books in Pommern were destroyed (burned). So, it will be hard to find you ancestor.
    Best way should be, to find a passenger list with his entry, if his exact place of origin is named in the entry.
    best regards
    Angehängte Dateien
    Viele Grüße

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    • davecapps
      Erfahrener Benutzer
      • 13.10.2015
      • 2443

      #3
      Hi John

      found at
      Family Tree for Clifford James Juber, Jr a/k/a John Christopher Clifford My PARENTS : (md 15 Nov 1938 in Chicago) Father : Clifford Jame...


      Maternal Grandfather's parents: (md 11 Nov 1885 in Chicago, IL USA)
      Greatgrandfather: Theodore Fibranz bn 25 Aug 1861 in Germany; d 2 July 1922 in Chicago IL USA.
      Greatgrandmother: Augusta Vandersee bn c 1860 in Germany; d c 1926.
      Their children: Paul Franklin (above), Pauline (Lena) (1890- 1972).
      Maternal Grandmother's parents: (md 25.12.1889 in MN USA)
      Greatgrandfather: John W Moorhead
      Greatgrandmother: Cecil Iona/Ione Fairbank (1867- c 1948)
      Their children: Lula Winnifred (5.9.1892-1968), Vera Marie (above)

      Posted by Rev John Clifford

      Good Luck
      Dave

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      • StefOsi
        Erfahrener Benutzer
        • 14.03.2013
        • 4163

        #4
        Well, this Compendium of History and Biography of Central and Northern Minnesota also mentioned his wife, but they gave her the name "Wanasa" instead of Vandersee, so uhm...who knows how accurate in terms of spelling this book is.

        Anyway, i think John Clifford already knows these books, censuses, death dates or mentioned names. In the end more data is needed...the name fibranz, vibrantz, viebrans and so on is plastered all over the place in pomerania/eastern prussia.

        P.S. I also checked castlegarden for just the name "Theodor(e)" in the timespan of several years around 1881 and nada, niente..no surname resembles v|fibranz ect. even close.
        Zuletzt geändert von StefOsi; 13.03.2017, 13:55.

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        • Virginie
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          • 26.03.2011
          • 65

          #5
          Hallo liebe Anne Sara Weingart,

          ich weiß nicht ob du bei mir ins Album schauen kannst.

          Hier mal die Daten: Ahnenforschung Stettin (Schievelbein)
          EHEPAAR:

          Hermann Fiebrantz ( Treptow/R., Kreis Greifenberg)
          * 03.01.1854
          + unbekannt
          Sophie Hannemann

          SOHN: Wilhelm Fiebrantz
          *
          + vor 21.03.1882
          EHE: 21.03.1882 (?)
          Hermann Fiebrantz geb. in Treptow/R., Kreis Greifenberg
          *03.01.1854
          + unbekannt
          und
          1. Ehefrau: Auguste, Bertha, Johanna Fiebrantz, geb. Reiter geb. in Schroda, Posen
          *31.01.1859
          +14.08.1884 in Schivelbein

          Tochter:
          Marie, Elisabeth, Amalie Fiebrantz geb. in Schivelbein
          * 21.07.1884
          +23.09.1884 in Schivelbein

          SOHN:
          Friedrich Wilhelm Otto Fiebrantz
          * 20.04.1883 in Schivelbein
          + 29.09.1884 in Schivelbein
          getauft: 06.06.1883 (ev.)
          EHE 09.10.1885 (?)
          2. Ehefrau:Anna Fiebrantz, geb. Draeger
          * 25.08.1863 in Marienbusch, Netzekreis

          KINDER:

          Sohn; Herbert Erwin Arthur Fiebrantz (war Bäcker)
          * 16.01.1886 in Schivelbein
          + unbekannt,
          getauft 14.03.1886 (ev.)
          Tochter; Helene Else Alma Fiebrantz
          * 08.12.1887 in Schivelbein
          + unbekannt,
          getauft: 02.04.1888 (ev.)

          Tochter; Anna Berhardfine Charlotte Fiebrantz
          * 27.04.1889 in Schivelbein
          + unbekannt,
          getauft: 10.06.1889 in Schivelbein (ev.)


          Herbert Erwin Artur Fiebrantz (wohnhaft in Berlin, Schivelbeiner Str.8)
          mit Ehefrau:
          Anna Elisa Auguste Fiebrantz, geb. Luft (war Näherin)
          * 07.01.1883 in Cüstrin, Kreis Königsberg Nm.
          + 05.12.1910 in Berlin Virchow-Krankenhaus
          V: Johann Luft (Gastwirt)
          M: Anna geb. Grützke

          Tochter; Charlotte Hedwig Sophie Fiebrantz
          * 24.08.1910 in Berlin
          + 25.01.2002 in Berlin

          Meine Oma Charlotte Ballwanz, war eine geboren Fiebrantz. Vll. hilft es uns -oder Dir weiter.
          Zuletzt geändert von Virginie; 13.03.2017, 15:12.
          LG aus Brandenburg
          FN:Ballwanz, Fiebrantz, Luft, Draeger, Hannemann, Rodig. Stahl, Laux

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          • StefOsi
            Erfahrener Benutzer
            • 14.03.2013
            • 4163

            #6
            Ok, how about trying to forget Theodore for a moment and focus on other Fibranz people who might be connected to Theodore.

            So, Theodore came to the US in 1881, right? He also moved and lived in Beardsley, MN for some time. So one can assume that he didn't just move there from Chicago for fun, but other reasons i.e. a job, extended family members ect..

            If you look for Fibranz's in MN you find some clues, like
            Herman G. Fibranz, born Feb 1860, died in 1945, buried in Wheaton, MN, just around the corner of Beardsley. This Herman G. immigrated in..guess what, right..1881, just like Theodore and he was a farmer too - according to the Census reports.

            To rephrase a famous quote: Coincidence, I don't think so.

            Of course I could be wrong, but I think these two guys probably have some relationship, they could be even brothers - but that's just a long shot for now.

            P.S. At least one child of Herman. G. moved to Beardsly later.
            Zuletzt geändert von StefOsi; 13.03.2017, 16:34.

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            • Anna Sara Weingart
              Erfahrener Benutzer
              • 23.10.2012
              • 16940

              #7
              Zitat von Virginie Beitrag anzeigen
              ... Herbert Erwin Arthur Fiebrantz (war Bäcker) * 16.01.1886 in Schivelbein ...
              Herbert Erwin Artur Fiebrantz (wohnhaft in Berlin, Schivelbeiner Str.8)...
              Hallo. Er war also ein echter Patriot, auch in der Fremde
              Viele Grüße

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              • John Clifford
                Benutzer
                • 27.08.2008
                • 13

                #8
                Danke schön

                Zitat von Anna Sara Weingart Beitrag anzeigen
                Hello,
                here is a hint:
                Danke, aber diesen Hinweis ist für August (mannlich) und nicht Augusta (weiblich).

                John Clifford

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                • John Clifford
                  Benutzer
                  • 27.08.2008
                  • 13

                  #9
                  Der bin ich…..

                  Zitat von davecapps Beitrag anzeigen
                  Hi John

                  found at
                  Family Tree for Clifford James Juber, Jr a/k/a John Christopher Clifford My PARENTS : (md 15 Nov 1938 in Chicago) Father : Clifford Jame...


                  Maternal Grandfather's parents: (md 11 Nov 1885 in Chicago, IL USA)
                  Greatgrandfather: Theodore Fibranz bn 25 Aug 1861 in Germany; d 2 July 1922 in Chicago IL USA.
                  Greatgrandmother: Augusta Vandersee bn c 1860 in Germany; d c 1926.
                  Their children: Paul Franklin (above), Pauline (Lena) (1890- 1972).
                  Maternal Grandmother's parents: (md 25.12.1889 in MN USA)
                  Greatgrandfather: John W Moorhead
                  Greatgrandmother: Cecil Iona/Ione Fairbank (1867- c 1948)
                  Their children: Lula Winnifred (5.9.1892-1968), Vera Marie (above)

                  Posted by Rev John Clifford

                  Good Luck
                  Dave
                  Vielen Dank aber ich habe diesen geschrieben.

                  John

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                  • John Clifford
                    Benutzer
                    • 27.08.2008
                    • 13

                    #10
                    Danke schön

                    Zitat von Anna Sara Weingart
                    Quotation:
                    "Theodore Fibranz, who, through his industrious efforts and honest dealings, has acquired a valuable property in Arthur township, is one of the old settlers of Traverse county. He is a man of enterprise and strict integrity and has gained the confidence and esteem of his associates. Mr. Fibranz was born in Germany, in 1861. His father, Fred Fibranz, was of German birth and followed farming in his native land."

                    Citation: Compendium of History and Biography of Central and Northern Minnesota, 1904, page 742
                    Danke, ich hatte diesen schon gesehen, dafür meine ich daß Theodors Vater Fredrick heiß.

                    John

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                    • John Clifford
                      Benutzer
                      • 27.08.2008
                      • 13

                      #11
                      Alternative search

                      Zitat von StefOsi Beitrag anzeigen
                      Ok, how about trying to forget Theodore for a moment and focus on other Fibranz people who might be connected to Theodore.

                      So, Theodore came to the US in 1881, right? He also moved and lived in Beardsley, MN for some time. So one can assume that he didn't just move there from Chicago for fun, but other reasons i.e. a job, extended family members ect..

                      If you look for Fibranz's in MN you find some clues, like
                      Herman G. Fibranz, born Feb 1860, died in 1945, buried in Wheaton, MN, just around the corner of Beardsley. This Herman G. immigrated in..guess what, right..1881, just like Theodore and he was a farmer too - according to the Census reports.

                      To rephrase a famous quote: Coincidence, I don't think so.

                      Of course I could be wrong, but I think these two guys probably have some relationship, they could be even brothers - but that's just a long shot for now.

                      P.S. At least one child of Herman. G. moved to Beardsly later.
                      Hello,
                      Many thanks for this idea. I will try to follow this through. It's a new approach for me.
                      John

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