Franz KOPALL marriage

[Federico]

I'm researching about marriage of Franz KOPALL


Franz Joseph KOPALL
b. in Chrudim 19 Feb 1776
He died in 1855 in Wien
son of Franz Kopal and Anna Patian

marriage (uncertain date)

Sophie Alavoine de Bergue
B. in Frankfurt/oder in 1780
d. in Wien in 1857


He was in Znaim in 1808-1813 (Stadtischer Kassier)
He was in Lember between 1814 and 1820
Verwalter in Znaim in 1827



Perhaps the couple had a daughter married to a certain Koessejewski



https://books.google.it/books?id=15djAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA242&dq=%22Franz+KOPALL& hl=it&newbks=1&newbks_redir=1&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjDxI 7E8NmOAxV2gf0HHdLKMKAQ6AF6BAgOEAM

[PeterS]

He was in Znaim in 1808-1813 (Stadtischer Kassier)
He was in Lember between 1814 and 1820
Verwalter in Znaim in 1827

I think the Franz Kopal from Znaim was a different one:
Marriage of Franz Kopal alhisig städtischer Kassekontrolor, Sohn des verstorbenen H. Karl Kopal gewesten Stadtverwalter (32 years old) with Klara Ederin des verstorbenen H. Leopold Eder bürgerlichen Leederermeisters Tochter (22 years old) on 1.5.1795 in Znojmo - sv. Kříž.
(Franz Kopal, accountant of the city treasury from here, son of the late Mr. Karl Kopal, former city administrator with Klara Ederin daughter of the late Mr. Leopold Eder, master leatherworker)
Their children in Znojmo - parish sv. Mikuláš:
* on 16.7.1793 Ernestia Juliana in Nr. 332 [fol. 177]; died in Prag 331/1 on 13.11.1870
* on 13.11.1795 Leopoldina Karolina in Nr. 332 [fol. 228]
* on 5.7.1797 Karl Gustav in Nr. 332
* on 17.5.1799 Aloysia Amalia in Nr. 332 [fol. 310]
* on 13.5.1801 Maria Amalia in Nr. 332
* on 30.5.1804 Wenzel Franz Josef in Nr. 332 [fol. 462]
* on 21.4.1806 Wilhelmina Johanna in Nr. 331 [fol. 502]; died in Prag 331/1 on 15.5.1873.
* on 14.2.1808 Friedrich Eugen in Nr. 331 [fol. 544]
* on 6.2.1810 Alexander Eugenius in Nr. 331 [fol. 598]
* on 10.7.1812 Franz Ser. Karl Heinrich in Nr. 331 [fol. 666]

Greetings, Peter

Additions:
Marriange of Carolus Josephus Kopal, Granarius [Kastner] Jaromieritio [Jaroměřice nad Rokytnou/Jarmeritz] filius defuncti Dnni Gegorgi Wenceslai Kopal Capitanei Moravo Budvitio with Maria Antonia Wscheteczka, on 4.5.1749 in parish Lispitz/Blížkovice.
Karl Joseph Kopal died on 16.5.1787 in Znaim Nr. 332 at the age of 66 years. He was born on 26.1.1721 in Moravské Budějovice/Mährisch.
Children in Jaroměřice nad Rokytnou:
* on 1.9.1750 Adamus Carolus; mother: Antonia
Dead of Ludmilla, uxor D. Caroli Kopal, frumentarius Jaromericensis oriunda Rihenburgio in Bohemia on 16.2.1754 at the age of 24 years??
2nd marriage ?
Children in ...?
...
Children in Znojmo:
* on 15.4.1761 Catharina Sabina Josepha; mother: Maria Rosa
* on 15.11.1762 Josephus Georgius Leopoldus; mother: Rosa, geb. Rueff
* on 15.9.1764 Wenceslaus Georgius; mother: Maria Rosa
* on 6.8.1766 Leopoldina Josepha Sabina
* on 27.11.1771 Anna Francisca Barbara; mother: Rosa

[Federico]

He was in Znaim as "Kassier" and "Kontroller" in 1808-1822
I'll search daughters of Kopall-Alavoine in Znaim registers.

[PeterS]

There were two different Franz Kopal(l)s, one lived with his wife Klara Eder in the city of Znaim (confirmes until 1812), the other in Galicia (confirmed 1819 , 1820, etc.) and worked in the tobacco administration. The second one - I guess - is yours from Chrudim (born on 19.2.1776 in Chrudim 43; Parents: Kopal Franciscus ... Uxor Maria Anna nata Patiana ambo Liberi).

In the Austrian State Archives (full text search) there is a file from 1804 concerning Franz Kopall, who had something to do with the tobacco administration ("Konduitlisten der Tabak- und Stempelgefällendirektion, Nr. 1-740" - personnel file).


But there is an interesting birth of Arthur Hannibal Kopall on 17.7.1841 in Vienna - parish Meidling.
Father: Franz Kopall, kath. R. Controlor, gebürtig von Lemberg in Galizien
Mother: Sophie Kopall, kath. R. gebürtig von Lemberg in Galizien.
Notes: .... Laut Trauungsschein der Pfarre Kołaczyce im Jasloer Kreise in Galizien allda getraut den 3. November 1813.

Greetings, Peter

[Federico]

Arthur Hannibal son o Franz Kopall born in Lemberg and Sophia Kopall (maybe cousins??)

Godmother Henriette Diane Gregor, Wittwe, living in Ferdinand Gasse, Wien?

[PeterS]

Hallo Frederico,
your searches, which you ask questions about here, are all a bit strange and difficult.
I mean, married on 3.11.1813 in Kołaczyce/Galizien, the child Arthur Hannibal was born 27 years later?
The parents have the same first names as those in post # 1?

Sofie Kopall, k.k. Beamtens-Witwe died on 8.12.1857 in Wien - Wieden Nr. 294 at the age of 76 years (born ~ 1781), Franz Kopall, k.k. Gefällen-Verwaltungskontrolor died on 11.05.1855 in Wien - Gumpendorf Nr. 396 at the age of 81 years (born ~ 1774). They can be the grand-parents of Arthur.

Many church records from Lemberg/Lviv can be viewed -> in this Polish archive (6 parishes have books from ~ 1785 -> here: Par. Lwów, Bazylika Metropolitalna [-> many nobles and officials], Par. Lwów, parafia św. Andrzeja (Bernardynów), Par. Lwów, parafia św. Anny, Par. Lwów, parafia Bożego Ciała (Dominikanów, d. pl. Dominikański) [-> many nobles and officials], Par. Lwów, parafia św. Marii Magdaleny (d. ul. Sykstuska - dla dzielnicy V). Some parishes wered founded later).

And yes, Henriette Diane Gregor, k.k. Hoff .?.. officials Wittwe Wien Ferdinand Gasse Nr. 665 is named as godmother of Arthur!

Greetings, Peter

[Federico]

Sorry, I mean that the second Sophia Kopall married Kopall (mother of Arthur) could be Sophia Alavoine's daughter
Maybe Sophia Alavoine married a cousin in 1800/1805 and was mother in 30es of XIX century.

[PeterS]

Hallo,
a Kopal - birth entry in Lemberg-Bazylika Metropolitalna :
* on 20.10.1823 Rosa Adamia in Lemberg Nr. 45; Patents: Aloysius Kopal (fiscalius adjunctus) et Wilhemina filia Leopoldi et Sophia Singer.

The web-site MTG has many books about Galicia, especially the whole schematisms from 1781 onwards.
e.g. 1806 Kopal on page 112 (Anton als Kastner in Grodek) and 279 (Aloys als Aktuarius in der k.k. vereinigte Kammerprokuratur).
e.g. 1805 Kopal(l) on page 130 (Anton als Kastner in Grodek), 213 (Franz als 1. Fabrikschreiber in der Fabrik zu Winniki) und 317 (Aloys als Aktuarius in der k.k. Kammerprokuratur)
e.g. 1815 Kopal on page 105 (Anton als Kanzlist im Expedit der k.k. Domänen- und Salinen Admnistration) and 206 (Franz als Offiziant in Verschleiß-Magazin zu Rzeszow).
e.g. 1838 Kopal on page 55 (Alois als Fiscal-Adjunct expon. in Czernowitz), 80 (Franz als Controllor der K.k. Tabak- und Stempelgefällen-Verschleiss-Magazin in?) , 174 (Alois als Fiscal-Adjunct und Unterthans-Advocat im k.k. Fiscalamt der Landtafel Czernowitz) and 424 (Alois als Fiscaladjunct in Czernowitz)

Greetings, Peter

[Federico]

Wien October 1841


Ludwig KOEZIEZKA

maybe elative to Amandus Constantin Koessiejewski
nephew of Alavoine sisters
maybe son of Sohia ALavoine Koapall's daughter




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[PeterS]

Wien October 1841


Ludwig KOEZIEZKA

maybe elative to Amandus Constantin Koessiejewski
nephew of Alavoine sisters
maybe son of Sohia ALavoine Koapall's daughter




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Please post the -> original link's too, not just images!
"Bardowitz in Böhmen" is Pardubitz/Pardubice?

His name is Ludwig Kocziczka.
-> newspaper 13.5.1842: he leaves behind his widow and 4 children.

Ludwig Johann Kocziczka (and his family) was posthumously raised to the nobility on 8 April 1859 with the Prädicate Edler und Ritter Kocziczka von Freibergswall. (see -> this book on page 232).
6 sons: Joseph (born on 23.12.1816 in Klattau), Ernst (Grundbuchsblatt), Alexander (Offziersdienstbeschreibung), Franz, Wenzel (Offiziersdienstbeschreibung) und Karl (Offiziersdienstbeschreibung).
1 widow: Thersia, geb. Edle von Unfred

His "Grundbuchblatt" from Chevauxleger Regiment Nr. 4 Abgang 1. Klasse Heft 1-3 1841-1850:
Born 1782 in Pardubitz, married on 13.9.1811 with Theresia Umfred, ...

[Federico]

Sorry, is the complete list of Wien deaths at familysearch

[PeterS]

Perhaps the couple had a daughter married to a certain Koessejewski

I would guess, that the name "Koessejewski" (Koessiejewski?) has (unfortunately) nothing to do with the name "Kocziczka".
In the province of Posen one can - very rarely but still - find the name Kosiejewski (e.g. -> familysearch). The name Kosciewski is quite similar.

Peter

[Federico]

Thanks
Surname Kosiejewsi is in French document, so I hypothesized that it was an incorrect transcription or simply phonetic