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  • laurent2301
    Benutzer
    • 29.04.2019
    • 14

    Looking for my grand father

    Hello

    I am french and I don’t speak german. However I can use a translator.

    I am looking for my grandfather who was german. He was in Paris during War World II.

    I have names and date of his great grand father but I don’t know where to look. I didn’t find anything in ancestry.

    Somebody can help me?

    Thanks

    Laurent
  • Horst von Linie 1
    Erfahrener Benutzer
    • 12.09.2017
    • 19748

    #2
    Guten Tag,
    ohne Namen und Daten geht das aber nicht.
    Falls im Eifer des Gefechts die Anrede mal wieder vergessen gegangen sein sollte, wird sie hiermit mit dem Ausdruck allergrößten Bedauerns in folgender Art und Weise nachgeholt:
    Guten Morgen/Mittag/Tag/Abend. Grüß Gott! Servus.
    Gude. Tach. Juten Tach. Hi. Hallo.

    Und zum Schluss:
    Freundliche Grüße.

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    • laurent2301
      Benutzer
      • 29.04.2019
      • 14

      #3
      The grand mother of my unknown grand father was "Maria Auguste Georgi" born the 11/01/1839 in Oberschlema, Erzgebirge
      She married "Gustav Heinrich Kaden" the 28/06/1868

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      • laurent2301
        Benutzer
        • 29.04.2019
        • 14

        #4
        I found these informations with DNA test and I found some matching in myheritage

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        • Kasstor
          Erfahrener Benutzer
          • 09.11.2009
          • 13440

          #5
          Hallo Laurent,

          ancestry delivers the following information:

          Gustav Heinrich Kaden , miller, and Maria Auguste, nee Georgi,
          residing in Rosenthal, mentioned as parents of

          Ernst Otto Kaden, carpenter, * 18.10.1867 Niederhaslau Zwickau district,
          residing Kleinblittersdorf, ( + 26.12.1952 Kleinblittersdorf )
          married 04.Dec 1901 in Kleinblittersdorf to
          Katharina Stark, *10.06.1877 Kleinblittersdorf ( + 5.3.1953 Kleinbl.)
          parents Nikolaus Stark, carpenter, and Katharina nee Hentz, residing Kleinblittersdorf.
          Marginal note son Otto Ernst * 13.11.1902 Kleinbl.
          marriage #1 1929 #2 1936 #3 1955 all Kleinblittersdorf

          Regards,


          Thomas
          FN Pein (Quickborn vor 1830), FN Hinsch (Poppenbüttel, Schenefeld), FN Holle (Hamburg, Lüchow?), FN Ludwig/Niesel (Frankenstein/Habelschwerdt) FN Tönnies (Meelva bei Karuse-Estland, später Hamburg), FN Lindloff (Altona, Lüneburg, Suderburg)

          Ceterum censeo progeniem hominum esse deminuendam

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          • Kasstor
            Erfahrener Benutzer
            • 09.11.2009
            • 13440

            #6
            Otto 1876 -1952
            Totenzettel-Sammlungen der Westdeutschen Gesellschaft für Familienkunde e.V., zusammengestellt aus zahlreichen Sammlungen von verschiedenen Einreichern

            Katharina https://www.wgff-tz.de/details.php?id=379952
            Zuletzt geändert von Kasstor; 29.04.2019, 18:08.
            FN Pein (Quickborn vor 1830), FN Hinsch (Poppenbüttel, Schenefeld), FN Holle (Hamburg, Lüchow?), FN Ludwig/Niesel (Frankenstein/Habelschwerdt) FN Tönnies (Meelva bei Karuse-Estland, später Hamburg), FN Lindloff (Altona, Lüneburg, Suderburg)

            Ceterum censeo progeniem hominum esse deminuendam

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            • laurent2301
              Benutzer
              • 29.04.2019
              • 14

              #7
              Thank you very much Kasstor
              If I understand Ernst otto and Katharina, they had a child named Otto Ernst born 13.11.1902. Exact ?

              If yes How can i know if this child was a soldier durng the war world II and has been to Paris in 1941 ?

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              • Xtine
                Administrator
                • 16.07.2006
                • 28377

                #8
                Hello Laurent,


                you can find the marriage certificate of Ernst Otto Kaden on Ancestry

                If you don't habe an access, I can send you the picture


                The birth place of Ernst Otto is Niederhaßlau
                Viele Grüße .................................. .
                Christine

                .. .............
                Wer sich das Alte noch einmal vor Augen führt, um das Neue zu erkennen, der kann anderen ein Lehrer sein.
                (Konfuzius)

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                • laurent2301
                  Benutzer
                  • 29.04.2019
                  • 14

                  #9
                  and last thing my my grand father or my mum father that I don't know was german as I told you but also half jewish. Do you think Stark or Hentz were jewish name ?

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                  • laurent2301
                    Benutzer
                    • 29.04.2019
                    • 14

                    #10
                    Thanks Xtine, Yes the pictur will be nice because I don't have access to the german version

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                    • Xtine
                      Administrator
                      • 16.07.2006
                      • 28377

                      #11
                      You will get an PN
                      Viele Grüße .................................. .
                      Christine

                      .. .............
                      Wer sich das Alte noch einmal vor Augen führt, um das Neue zu erkennen, der kann anderen ein Lehrer sein.
                      (Konfuzius)

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                      • Kasstor
                        Erfahrener Benutzer
                        • 09.11.2009
                        • 13440

                        #12
                        Zitat von laurent2301 Beitrag anzeigen
                        and last thing my my grand father or my mum father that I don't know was german as I told you but also half jewish. Do you think Stark or Hentz were jewish name ?

                        All info abt religious stuff for both families is catholic.


                        Thomas
                        Zuletzt geändert von Kasstor; 29.04.2019, 18:40.
                        FN Pein (Quickborn vor 1830), FN Hinsch (Poppenbüttel, Schenefeld), FN Holle (Hamburg, Lüchow?), FN Ludwig/Niesel (Frankenstein/Habelschwerdt) FN Tönnies (Meelva bei Karuse-Estland, später Hamburg), FN Lindloff (Altona, Lüneburg, Suderburg)

                        Ceterum censeo progeniem hominum esse deminuendam

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                        • laurent2301
                          Benutzer
                          • 29.04.2019
                          • 14

                          #13
                          Thanks again Thomas so if I understand well, Gustav Heinrich Kaden had two son : Gustav Ewald Kaden and Ernst Otto Kaden

                          As I told you my mum has some jewish DNA and from Ernst otto Kaden, his wife Stark must be jewish so their son Otto Ernst Kaden born in 1902 could be my grand father.

                          To be almost sure I have to know if he was in Paris in 1941 or 1942 (my mum is born in august 1942). Is their military archiv where I can found this information ?

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                          • Kasstor
                            Erfahrener Benutzer
                            • 09.11.2009
                            • 13440

                            #14
                            Hi,


                            there are several things to keep in mind.
                            1. Only a part of documents can be found online, thus it is possible that there were sons of Kaden - Georgi couple we don´t know.
                            2. As ancestry has, for example, Saarland births til 1903 and Dresden births til 1902, it is possible that sons were born to Ernst Otto or Gustav Ewald later than those years.
                            3. Times of military service can be found at https://www.dd-wast.de/fr/accueil.html but I think it is not useful to apply for a research now as it is not clear which Kaden family members come into question.


                            Regards,


                            Thomas
                            Angehängte Dateien
                            FN Pein (Quickborn vor 1830), FN Hinsch (Poppenbüttel, Schenefeld), FN Holle (Hamburg, Lüchow?), FN Ludwig/Niesel (Frankenstein/Habelschwerdt) FN Tönnies (Meelva bei Karuse-Estland, später Hamburg), FN Lindloff (Altona, Lüneburg, Suderburg)

                            Ceterum censeo progeniem hominum esse deminuendam

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                            • laurent2301
                              Benutzer
                              • 29.04.2019
                              • 14

                              #15
                              answer

                              Thanks Thomas

                              Yes I can see it is difficult and really I don't think I will find because there is too many possibilities and as you say we don't have all information.

                              Thanks again for your time

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