Otto/Hans Gross

[corin]

Hi everyone,

I am trying to research both Otto Gross and his father Hans. Otto was a psychoanalyst and Hans a criminologist from Graz Austria.
I would love to be able to get a birth record for both, how possible is this? and where should I be looking? I also want to discover their family tree, I assume Hans and his wife Adele had siblings and so Otto had cousins, so I'd like to find this out. I would also like to know where they lived and what school Otto went to. Otto died in Berlin 1921, would a record of his death be attainable?
thanks for any help,

Corin

[Opa98]

Hi, here in wikipedia https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Gross

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Gross_(Kriminologe)

[corin]

I know plenty about them both including wiki... Im wanting to do family research on them

[Kasstor]

Hi,


Birth entry for Otto Hans Adolf:

https://matriken.graz-seckau.at/flashbook?id=5131&currentPage=153

Entry no 40


Regards,


Thomas

[corin]

Thank you Thomas but I can't read it... It's asking for Adobe flash player and I'm having issues connecting it to the page. Can you take a still from it and post it? Thanks, Corin

[corin]

Hi again. I've managed to access it. Thank u. Its definitely him. Can anyone help to transcribe it all? I'm struggling with the language and also the handwriting

[gki]

http://data.matricula-online.eu/de/oesterreich/graz-seckau/feldbach/5131/?pg=154

this version is easier accessible.

there isn't much info there.

1st ist the number 40 (40th child born this year I guess)

born March 17th, 4 in the afternoon, baptized March 27th

The place is next, hard to read, Gniebing maybe

House No. 6.

given Names Otto Hans Adolf

male

catholic

Parents:
Dr. Hans Groſs, xy Ger. Adjunct, xy I can't read "Ger. Adjunct" is probably "Gerichts-Adjunct" some junior official at a court of law.
Adele born Raymann

Godfather:
Wolf Raymann sen., Fabrikant in Friewaldau, Schlesien (factory owner in Friewaldau, Schlesien)
He wasn't present himself, but in his stead Dr. Ferd. Haneisen, xy [same as above] Stabsarzt in Graz (military? doctor in Graz)

last two are the priest and the midwife.

[corin]

Brilliant, thank you. Good information on the grandfather Wolf. Weird that Hans father is not on there? Or is it usually the mother's dad?

[Kasstor]

Hi,


in a newspaper article regarding Hans´ death I found his Ggrandfather mentioned as Johann Gross, Hofrat, also in the law court business.
But why not looking here: http://de3.netpure.de/cgi-bin/basepo...en&localparams

plenty of data :

e g parents:: Franziska, nee. Leuzendorff and Johann Baptist Gustav Gross, imperial Oberkriegskommissär. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_commissary :residing Graz, Am kleinen Glacis Nr. 6 (heute: Radetzkystr. 11



Thomas

[gki]

Brilliant, thank you. Good information on the grandfather Wolf. Weird that Hans father is not on there? Or is it usually the mother's dad?

I wouldn't say "usually", maybe his father was already dead?

[Kasstor]

But I don`t find the baptism entry for Hans. Should be here http://data.matricula-online.eu/de/o...egister-header but it is not listed in the index for 1847/48. Neither Dom or Mariae Himmelfahrt parishes.
Hmm


Thomas

[corin]

Hi,


in a newspaper article regarding Hans´ death I found his Ggrandfather mentioned as Johann Gross, Hofrat, also in the law court business.
But why not looking here: http://de3.netpure.de/cgi-bin/basepo...en&localparams

plenty of data :

e g parents:: Franziska, nee. Leuzendorff and Johann Baptist Gustav Gross, imperial Oberkriegskommissär. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_commissary :residing Graz, Am kleinen Glacis Nr. 6 (heute: Radetzkystr. 11



Thomas

That's amazing Thomas. So his dad and grandfather were call Johann and hans is a shorted version of that name?

His grandfather was also in law... Was hans dad also working in law as well?