How to get most out of Austrian genealogy?

[milutinus123]

Hello!

I have been researching my ancestors for a while now and have managed to find (with baptism/marriage/death records) a lot of them in Vienna.
I have used genteam.at to find them. I have looked at Lehmann address book to locate their addresses.


Now my question is; how do find more information about them?
Are there any tips and tricks that are less known?
Other sources than church books?
Old photography galleries?


Or is it hopeless?



Thank you!

[Sinhuber]

Hallo,
maybe you can find something in the newspapers, see

http://anno.onb.ac.at/anno-suche#searchMode=simple&from=1

Best regards
Christine

[Xtine]

Hi,

do you know, that the churchbooks are online.

http://data.matricula-online.eu/de/oesterreich/

[milutinus123]

Hi,

do you know, that the churchbooks are online.
http://data.matricula-online.eu/de/oesterreich/

Hey,

yes I do know, that's where I've got all the info from

[Zita]

Hi milutinus,

I am sure there are a lot of things you could find in the archive of the city of Vienna https://www.wien.gv.at/kultur/archiv/.

As there are for example
+ Abhandlungen, Inventuren, Verlassenschaftsakte, Testamente (all of them were made - at different times in a different way - when somebody died)
+ Archivalien zur Zunft der Posamentierer und Bandmacher (e.g. guild laws)
+ historical photos
+ contracts e.g for marriages, for buying houses
+ land registers

The archive people are usually very helpful, so I would recommend to ask there for further information. Mention time, profession and place! Ask for the price in advance.

Zita

[milutinus123]

Hi milutinus,

I am sure there are a lot of things you could find in the archive of the city of Vienna https://www.wien.gv.at/kultur/archiv/.

As there are for example
+ Abhandlungen, Inventuren, Verlassenschaftsakte, Testamente (all of them were made - at different times in a different way - when somebody died)
+ Archivalien zur Zunft der Posamentierer und Bandmacher (e.g. guild laws)
+ historical photos
+ contracts e.g for marriages, for buying houses
+ land registers

The archive people are usually very helpful, so I would recommend to ask there for further information. Mention time, profession and place! Ask for the price in advance.

Zita

Thank you Zita, I will email them as soon as the corona is gone.

For example, do I write it like this?:

Heinrich Brunner son of Franz, Rechnungsratdirektor in Vienna, born in Geras 1 Aug 1866- died in Rabenstein 30 Jul 1936.


Ignaz Kaspar Gruber son of Bernhard, Gold and Silver engraver in Vienna, born in Vienna
(Mariahilf) 27 Jan 1825- died 4 Jan 1899 in Vienna (Schottenfeld)


Bernhard Gruber son of Kaspar, Posamentirer in Vienna, born in Vienna (St. Ulrich) 14 Feb 1786

[Zita]

Heinrich Brunner son of Franz, Rechnungsratdirektor in Vienna, born in Geras 1 Aug 1866- died in Rabenstein 30 Jul 1936.Did he live in Vienna or in Rabenstein? If he lived in Vienna you should add his last address, if he lived in Rabenstein you should contact the NÖ Landesarchiv (http://www.noe.gv.at/noe/Landesarchi...ngszeiten.html)
This seems to be his last address: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61...44&cat=1148422


Ignaz Kaspar Gruber son of Bernhard, Gold and Silver engraver in Vienna, born in Vienna
(Mariahilf) 27 Jan 1825- died 4 Jan 1899 in Vienna (Schottenfeld) - address

Bernhard Gruber son of Kaspar, Posamentirer in Vienna, born in Vienna (St. Ulrich) 14 Feb 1786 - address and date of death

[milutinus123]

Heinrich Brunner son of Franz, Rechnungsratdirektor in Vienna, born in Geras 1 Aug 1866- died in Rabenstein 30 Jul 1936.Did he live in Vienna or in Rabenstein? If he lived in Vienna you should add his last address, if he lived in Rabenstein you should contact the NÖ Landesarchiv (http://www.noe.gv.at/noe/Landesarchi...ngszeiten.html)
This seems to be his last address: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61...44&cat=1148422


Ignaz Kaspar Gruber son of Bernhard, Gold and Silver engraver in Vienna, born in Vienna
(Mariahilf) 27 Jan 1825- died 4 Jan 1899 in Vienna (Schottenfeld) - address

Bernhard Gruber son of Kaspar, Posamentirer in Vienna, born in Vienna (St. Ulrich) 14 Feb 1786 - address and date of death

Thank you,

So it is necessary to have the date of death?

Also, how did you find that paper where it says his adress?

[Zita]

Hi,

yes, you need to give them more information especially for the early ancestors. Registration started slowly at around 1850 but was mandatory by law not before 1908. I found the registration card because I had known that these cards are online for changes in registration between 1930 and 1940.

If you can state
+ the date of death they can perhaps find sth about the legacy
+ the date of marriage: a marriage contract
+ the address: a purchase contract

Zita

[carinthiangirl]

Birth of Heinrich Viktor Franz Lorenz Brunner on Aug 1, 1866 in Geras - 2nd entry:
father Franz Brunner, k.k. Notary in Geras, from Bonitz (Bohunice) in Moravia (Czech Rep.) and of Theresia, daughter of Ferdinand and Theresia Neubauer;
mother Pauline , daughter of Lorenz ?...., merchant in Zmrim, Moravia and of Antonia, daughter of Josef and ?.... Kremser from ?....

http://data.matricula-online.eu/de/oesterreich/st-poelten/geras/01%252F08/?pg=35

Death (3rd entry No 17) of Brunner Heinrich, cath., Accounting director in pension, age 70, currently in summer vacation in the village Au 39, permanent residence: Vienna 18th, Währinger Gürtel 59; Born in Geras, Lower Austria on August 1st, 1866, responsible to Vienna, wife Karoline nee Gruber, married since June 29th, 1893
Cause of death: paralysis of the heart, suddenly died
was transferred with a body passport from the district authority of St. Pölten on July 30, 1936, number 7, 17/147 on July 30, 1936 to the funeral in Vienna, Gersthofer Cemetery

http://data.matricula-online.eu/de/oesterreich/st-poelten/rabenstein/03%252F07/?pg=270

[carinthiangirl]

Cemetery Gersthof (Möhnergasse 1, 1180 Vienna)
Heinrich Brunner, age 69
Burial date Aug 3, 1936
Grave at:
Group 2, row 11, Number 64
right for the grave until Oct 31, 2015
buried in same grave:
Brunner Carolina, age 85
Seehofer Josef
Seehofer Pauline, age 55

https://www.friedhoefewien.at/grabsuche_de

[carinthiangirl]

Birth Ignaz Gruber, Jan 27, 1827, Mariahilf, Vienna (3rd entry)
father Bernhard Gruber, mother Anna Löbl

http://data.matricula-online.eu/de/oesterreich/wien/06-mariahilf/01-07/?pg=293

Death Ignaz Gruber, Jan 4, 1899, engraver, age 73 (4th entry)
cause of death Pneumonia, buried Jan 6, 1899 on Central Cemetery Vienna

http://data.matricula-online.eu/de/oesterreich/wien/07-schottenfeld/03-077/?pg=4

Central Cemetery Vienna (Simmeringer Hauptstraße 234, 1110 Vienna):
Gruber Ignaz, age 73
Grave: Group 71, Group enlargement B, Row 14, Number 72
Right for grave until Graveyard duration
Buried in same grave:
Dadak Erich Maria Josef, born June 21, 1923, age 89
Dadak Josef, age 92
Dadak Rosina, age 92
Gruber Ignaz, age 70
Gruber Karoline, age 75

https://www.friedhoefewien.at/grabsuche_de

[carinthiangirl]

Birth Bernhard Gruber 14, Feb, 1786
anywhere here (hard to read): http://data.matricula-online.eu/de/o.../01-36/?pg=890