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On page 41 you can read, that the evidence is written in a document from the year 1541:
"... Johann Bidennbach ..., sein Altvater mütterlicherseits solle Graf Eberhards im Barte lediger Bruder gewesen sein."
"... Johann Bidennbach ..., his maternal grandfather is said to be the brother of duke Eberhard im Barte."
Here are these two brothers Eberhard (named "im Barte", born 11 DEC 1443) and Johannes, the grandfather of Bidennbach/Bidembach: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-...hnen&id=I20258
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named "im Barte" meant he had a beardAngehängte DateienZuletzt geändert von Anna Sara Weingart; 30.11.2017, 23:31.Viele Grüße
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Zitat von Anna Sara Weingart Beitrag anzeigen... named "im Barte" meant he had a beard
born 11. Dezember 1445
and about the beard:
"Seinen Beinamen „im Bart“ soll er einem auf der Pilgerreise geleisteten Gelübde verdanken, dem zufolge er sich den Bart in Zukunft nicht mehr schneiden werde."Viele Grüße
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Zitat von NickV Beitrag anzeigen... Sorry, could you please put the 1541 document in context, what it was about and said? ...
In an other document the high administrative official (an "Obervogt"), who received this petition, made some remarks about. The Obervogt writes, that it is said, that the father Johann Bidennbach had a maternal grandfather who was the brother of duke Eberhard.
About your other question about the "cousin" Hanne (or Hans) Wirtemberger, named "goldsmith". He was not a goldsmith, he was just named "goldsmith" because his father seems to has been worked as goldsmith.
Hanne Wirtemberger died in 1529. In 1534 Johann Bidembach in Hessia wrote he would go to Württemberg because he received a job as Vogt there, and he has received a heritage from a cousin in Württemberg. We could explain the 5 years waiting time between the death of Hanne Wirtemberger in 1529 and the migration to Württemberg in 1534 with the political situation: the duke Ulrich left his exile and came back to Württemberg just in 1534.
But there is no evidence that this unnamed cousin of Johann Bidembach really was Hanne Wirtemberger.
Johann Bidembach in Hessia and Johann Bidennbach in Brackenheim were identical persons. The evidence is the list of the names of his sons. In Hessia in 1534 are these named as "Johann, Eberhard and Balthasar". Later in Brackenheim are these the same names of his 3 sons.Zuletzt geändert von Anna Sara Weingart; 01.12.2017, 10:24.Viele Grüße
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Zitat von Anna Sara Weingart Beitrag anzeigen... the "cousin" Hanne (or Hans) Wirtemberger, named "goldsmith". He was not a goldsmith, he was just named "goldsmith" because his father seems to has been worked as goldsmith ...Viele Grüße
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