Elisabeth Friedländer - in search for brothers and sisters and their family

[els]

Hello,

I am in search for brothers and sisters and their children and grandchildren of Elisabeth Friedländer. (the Friedländer side).


Elisabeth Friedländer was born on 27-09-1878 in Broslawitz, daughter of Bernhard Friedländer and Anna Stroheim. Elisabeth died on 30-11-1941 in Riga-Rumbula. Elisabeth married Siegmund Nacher on 04-02-1900 in Ptakowitz (StA). Siegmund was born on 16-09-1873 in Iskrzizin, son of Ferdinand Nacher and Theresie Fabisch. Siegmund died in 1940 in Berlin, Wilmersdorf.
Child of Elisabeth and Siegmund:
Margarete Nacher , (legal secretary) born on 30-01-1901 in Gleiwitz. Margarete died on 30-11-1941 in Riga. Margarete married Munderstein.
Child of Margarete and Munderstein:
Klaus Thomas Munderstein, born on 05-01-1930 in Berlin. Thomas died on 30-11-1941 in Riga


I would be very glad if someone could give a helping hand to find the data.

With best regards,
Els
The Netherlands

[tempelritter]

Hello Els
Friederike Tworoger nee Friedländer died in Berlin, Charlottenburg,
14. September 1908

Second marriage of Salo

http://www.online-ofb.de/famreport.php?ofb=memelland&lang=en&modus=&ID=I171104&nachname=

Elisabeth Nacher nee Friedländer

https://www.bundesarchiv.de/gedenkbuch/de1122685

Siegmund Nacher was not deported, he died in 1940 in Berlin, Wilmersdorf

[els]

Thank you very much, Chris!

Are you sure that Friederike Tworoger nee Friedländer died in Berlin, Charlottenburg?

With best regards,
Els

[tempelritter]

Hi,
quite sure, because the death certificate says No 490, Charlottenburg.
kind regards,
Chris

[tempelritter]

Siegmund and Elisabeth Nacher got a daughter called Margarete married Munderstein, born 30. Januar 1901 in Gleiwitz.
Son Klaus Thomas Munderstein was born in Berlin on 5. Januar 1930
Memories from a poesiealbum

https://books.google.de/books?id=JhYb73CHmt8C&pg=PA231&lpg=PA231&dq=elisabeth+nacher,+wilmersdorf&source=bl&ots=ZNNMnmGSKG&sig=P9585TrXGzNNnHgRzwuKcCxrJu4&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiNtN_YjpvYAhURo6QKHQ5yACwQ6AEIMDAA#v=onepage&q=elisabeth%20nacher%2C%20wilmersdorf&f=false

[tempelritter]

Hugo Tworoger, born 1895 in Wieschowa,
died 2. April 1917 in WW I,
he was the son of Salo and Friederike Tworoger

[els]

Not found brothers and sisters yet.

Mother Anna Stroheim side:

Leopold Stroheim (Brauer, Kaufmann) married Henriette (Jettel) Wohl.
Children of Leopold and Jettel:
1 Anna Stroheim born on 18-11-1848 in Loslau. Anna Stroheim married Bernhard Friedländer (24 yrs, Mikultschuetz) on 23-08-1871 in Bytom.
2 Eugen Stroheim was born on 18-11-1848. Eugen died on 30-05-1849 in Loslau
3 Salomon Stroheim born on 03-10-1853 in Loslau

Maybe father Bernhard Friedländer side:

Friedländer Friedericke z domu Jottkowitz
daty zycia: ur. ok. 1829 Bielschowitz (Bielszowice – Ruda Slaska)
rodzice: rzeznik Samuel Jottkowitz

zona/maz: kupiec, oberzysta Joseph Friedländer
dzieci:
Bernhard Friedländer ur. 15.12.1845;
Ferdinand Friedländer ur. ok. 1847 zm.25.11.1866 Mikultschütz (Mikulczyce);
Goldine Friedländer p.v. Zoporowski (Saporowski) ur. 18.12.1849 Mikultschütz (Mikulczyce) zm. 23.07.1914 Zabrze;
Jettel Friedländer p.v. Ackermann ur. 29.05.1851 Mikultschütz (Mikulczyce);
Herrmann Friedländer ur. ok. 1854 zm. 6.03.1857 Mikultschütz (Mikulczyce);
Berthold Friedländer ur. 25.12.1855 Mikultschütz (Mikulczyce);
Rosalie Friedländer p.v. Adler ur. 6.07.1860 Mikultschütz (Mikulczyce);
Louis Friedländer ur. 17.02.1862 Mikultschütz (Mikulczyce);
Antonie Apolonia Friedländer p.v. Juliusburger ur. 13.09.1863 Mikultschütz (Mikulczyce) zg. 11.09.1942 Theresienstadt (Terezin – Czechy) [deportowana z Breslau (Wroclaw) 30.08.1942 Theresienstadt (Terezin – Czechy)];
Hermine Helene Friedländer p.v. Fleischer ur. 8.05.1869 (4.05.1870) Mikultschütz (Mikulczyce) [deportowana z Beuthen OS. (Bytom) 23.06.1942 Auschwitz]?
dzialalnosc zawodowa/miejscowosc: Mikultschütz (Mikulczyce)
inne:

http://www.muzeum-miejskie-zabrze.pl/friedlnder-friedericke-z-domu-jottkowitz.php

marriage data:
Simon Friedlaender, * Feb 6, 1858 Mikultschuetz, Upper Silesia.
F. Joseph F., merchant
M. Friederike, nee Jottkowitz, both deceased, last place of residence Mikoltschuetz.


Anyway, I am looking for brothers and sisters of Elisabeth Friedländerand their children and grandchildren.

[Weltenwanderer]

Hello els,

I will send you a PM with the marriage records for both Friederike and Elisabeth (I happen to have those along with a large collection of other Jewish records from that area). Most of these records have already been entered into the OFB Juden
There are no further Friedländer children on the birth index of Broslawitz (register office, starting from October 1874).

http://www.online-ofb.de/juden_nw/

There were various synagogues in the area that they may have visited. Tarnowitz, Gleiwitz, and Kieferstädtel, for example. Use the magnifying lens to search for "jüdisch" - that should bring up a list of free Jewish records from Silesia on familysearch.

https://fs.webosi.net/detail/schlesien/latest#

A couple more hints:

http://geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.php?op=gt&lang=eng&bdm=S&w=12sl&rid=S&search_lastname=friedlaender&search_name=&search_lastname2=&search_name2=&from_date=&to_date=

Cheers!
Weltenwanderer

[Monika Holl]

Hallo Weltenwanderer,

was ich seltsam finde dass auf dem Todeseintrag von 1908 für Friederike der Vater mit Isidor angegeben ist.

Grüße
Monika

[DaveMaestro]

Hallo Monika,

was ich seltsam finde dass auf dem Todeseintrag von 1908 für Friederike der Vater mit Isidor angegeben ist.

das dürfte damit zu erklären sein, da die Nationalsozialisten Jüdische Namen in den 1930er Jahren "nachträglich" in den Urkunden einsetzten.

Gruß Dave

[russenmaedchen]

Hallo Monika,

das dürfte damit zu erklären sein, da die Nationalsozialisten Jüdische Namen in den 1930er Jahren "nachträglich" in den Urkunden einsetzten.

Gruß Dave

Das ist so nicht korrekt.
Die Zwangsannahme der Vornamen "Sara" und Israel" gab es seit August 1938.
Isidor gehörte nicht dazu.

[els]

On the marriage certificate of Friedericke Friedländer and Salo Tworoger are the parents Bernhard Friedländer and his wife Anna Stroheim mentioned.
The death certificate of Friedericke Friedländer contains a mistake which happened more in those days.

Friedericke Friedländer was born on 14-03-1873 in Kamienietz, daughter of Bernhard Friedländer and Anna Stroheim. Friedericke died on 14-09-1908 in Berlin, Charlottenburg. Friedericke married Salo Tworoger on 27-12-1893 in Ptakowitz (StA).
The children of Friedericke Friedländer and Salo Tworoger are already known to me.

So, I in am in search for Friedericke and Elisabeth Friedländers brothers and sisters and their children and grandchildren.

[Nicole G]

Klaus Thomas Munderstein

Dear Els, my name is nicole g. and am a student of a high school in Berlin. My class is currently working on a project that has to do with the family of Klaus Thomas Munderstein. we would be very happy to receive some information and hope that you can help us further.
Kind regards Nicole

[els]

Dear Nicole,

Thank you for this question. I hope I can help. I have send you a private message (Private Nachrichten) fia this forum.

With the best greeetings,
Els

[russenmaedchen]

Hallo,


diese Geschichte sollte für euer Projekt interessant sein

https://www.anstageslicht.de/themen/history/ignatznacher/das-kurze-leben-von-ignatz-nachers-grossneffen-thomas-munderstein/

Alfred Munderstein starb in Buenos Aires
MUNDERSTEIN ALFREDO

Cemetery:BERAZATEGUI

Birth Date:
Death Date:25/08/1965

Block: 5 | Section: 33 | Grave: 11