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  • Jeanne
    Erfahrener Benutzer
    • 03.01.2014
    • 1046

    Lord Lucan

    Hallo,


    ich suche alles über die Familie von Lord Lucan (1934-?). Ich bin vor allem an seinen Vorfahren interessiert, seinen Eltern, sein familiäres Umfeld etc.



    Auch die Gerichtsakten bzgl. des Mordes an der Nanny würden mich interessieren.

    Gruß, Jeanne
    Zuletzt geändert von Jeanne; 31.08.2020, 21:14.
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  • Kasstor
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    • 09.11.2009
    • 13440

    #2
    Hallo,

    das englische wikipedia ist da ja informativer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George..._Earl_of_Lucan

    Grüße


    Thomas
    FN Pein (Quickborn vor 1830), FN Hinsch (Poppenbüttel, Schenefeld), FN Holle (Hamburg, Lüchow?), FN Ludwig/Niesel (Frankenstein/Habelschwerdt) FN Tönnies (Meelva bei Karuse-Estland, später Hamburg), FN Lindloff (Altona, Lüneburg, Suderburg)

    Ceterum censeo progeniem hominum esse deminuendam

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    • Jeanne
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      • 03.01.2014
      • 1046

      #3
      Danke, Thomas!

      Aber ich suche nach interneren Daten, Polizeiakten und dergleichen

      Gruß, Jeanne
      Zuletzt geändert von Jeanne; 31.08.2020, 22:25.
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      • Scherfer
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        • 25.02.2016
        • 2512

        #4
        Hallo Jeanne,


        kennst Du schon diese Seite? Da geht es einige Generationen zurück und Fotos sind auch dabei.

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        • Jeanne
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          • 03.01.2014
          • 1046

          #5
          nein, die Seite kannte ich noch nicht, vielen Dank, Scherfer!


          Gruß, Jeanne
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          • Jeanne
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            • 03.01.2014
            • 1046

            #6
            Der Hintergrund bei der ganzen Sache ist, dass ich einen Kriminalroman schreibe. Ich habe bereits 36 Seiten mit der Lord Lucas - Geschichte im Hintergrund als Basis. Zuerst wollte ich einen ehemaligen getöteten Kollegen von meinem Kommissar wiederauferstehen lassen, sozusagen im Sessel plötzlich auftauchen, aber vor Kurzem hatte ich die Idee, den in diesem Fall (potentiellen) Mörder in dem Sessel sitzen zu lassen, der ab und an etwas erzählt, deswegen brauche genaue Details.


            Gruß, Jeanne
            Zuletzt geändert von Jeanne; 31.08.2020, 22:55.
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            • Scherfer
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              • 25.02.2016
              • 2512

              #7
              Hallo nochmal, Jeanne,

              auf der von Kasstor genannten englischen Wiki-Seite ist unten eine weitere Seite verlinkt, auf der man noch mehr Details zum Nanny-Mord findet:
              7th Earl of Lucan (1964-1974?) Professional gambler and alleged murderer Born 1934 Died 1974? Known as John to his friends and Lucky Lucan to his many g...

              Siehe auch die unten auf dieser Seite verlinkten Original-Quellen!


              Viel Spaß beim Schreiben!
              Zuletzt geändert von Scherfer; 01.09.2020, 08:36.

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              • Jeanne
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                • 03.01.2014
                • 1046

                #8
                Danke, Scherfer!


                Gruß,
                Jeanne
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                • Manfred Renner
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                  • 23.12.2006
                  • 1014

                  #9
                  Richard John Bingham

                  Hallo Jeanne,

                  hier die ( wohl ) komplette Ahnenreihe Desselben. Hoffe, Du kannst etwas damit anfangen. Leider habe ich keine Daten zu seinem näheren Umfeld.

                  Herzlichen Gruß aus Hamburg,
                  Manfred

                  1.
                  Richard John Bingham
                  7th Earl of Lucan
                  * 18.12.1934
                  + 07.11.1974 ( disappeared ? )
                  He was a gambler who loved the good life. In 1974 he disappeared following an upheavel at his house in Upper Belgrave Street during which his children's nursemaid was murdered. On 3 February 2016 a death certificate was issued which ennabled his son toi become the next Earl of Lucan.
                  Married 28 Nov 1963
                  Veronica Duncan
                  *
                  +
                  Children :
                  1. Lady Frances Bingham, *b. 24 Oct 1964
                  2. George Charles Bingham, 8th Earl of Lucan , b. 21 Sep 1967
                  3. Lady Camilla Bingham, *b. 30 Jun 1970
                  Source(s):
                  1. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, 1938. 1607
                  2. Debrett's Peerage and Baronetage . P758


                  2.
                  George Charles Patrick Bingham
                  6th Earl of Lucan
                  * 24 Nov 1898
                  + 21 Jan 1964
                  Married 23 Dec 1929
                  Kaitlin Elizabeth Anne Dawson
                  * 24 Jul 1900
                  +
                  Children :
                  1. Lady Jane Bingham, b. 13 Oct 1932
                  2. Richard John Bingham, 7th Earl of Lucan , b. 18 Dec 1934, * d. 7 Nov 1974, ( disappeared ? )
                  3. Lady Sarah Kaitilin Bingham, b. 5 Sep 1936
                  4. Hon. Hugh Bingham, b. 24 Apr 1939
                  Source(s) :
                  Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, 1938. 747,1607

                  4.
                  George Charles Bingham
                  5th Earl of Lucan
                  * 13 Dec 1860 in London
                  + 20 Apr 1949
                  Married 30 Nov 1896 in London
                  Violet Sylvia Blanche Clay
                  *
                  +
                  Children :
                  1. George Charles Patrick Bingham, 6th Earl of Lucan , *b. 24 Nov 1898, *d. 21 Jan 1964
                  2. Lady Barbara Violet Bingham, *b. 17 Aug 1902, *d. 17 Dec 1963
                  3. Hon. John Edward Bingham, *b. 29 Feb 1904
                  4. Lady Margaret Diana Bingham, *b. 16 Sep 1905, d. 1977
                  Source(s) :
                  1. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, 1938. 1607
                  2. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. 8:240


                  8.
                  George Bingham
                  4th Earl of Lucan
                  * 8 May 1830 in London
                  + 5 Jun 1914 in London, Laleham House
                  Married 17 Nov 1859 in London
                  Lady Cecilia Katherine Gordon-Lennox
                  * 13 Apr 1835 in London
                  + 5 Oct 1910 in London, Laleham House
                  Children :
                  1. George Charles Bingham, 5th Earl of Lucan , b. 13 Dec 1860, London , *d. 20 Apr 1949 *
                  2. Sir Cecil Edward Bingham, *b. 7 Dec 1861, *d. 31 May 1934
                  3. Sir Francis Richard Bingham, *b. 5 Jul 1863, d. 5 Nov 1935 *
                  4. Hon. Alexander Frederick Bingham, *b. 3 Aug 1864, * d. 26 May 1909
                  5. Hon. Albert Edward Bingham, b. 30 Jun 1866, *d. 6 Nov 1941
                  6. Lady Rosalind Bingham, b. 26 Feb 1869, London , d. 18 Jan 1958, London
                  7. Hon. Lionel Ernest Bingham, *b. 4 Nov 1876, d. 26 Jul 1927 *
                  Source(s) :
                  1. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. 8:240
                  2. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, 1938. 1608
                  3. Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 1999. 1777
                  4. The Ancestry of Diana, Princess of Wales for Twelve Generations, Boston, 2007., Evans, Richard K. nr / 22


                  16.
                  George Charles Bingham
                  3rd Earl of Lucan
                  * 16 Apr 1800 in London
                  + 10 Nov 1888 in 12 South Street, Park Lane, London
                  Married 29 Jun 1829 in London, St. Mary‘s
                  Lady Anne Brudenell
                  * 29 Jun 1809 in Hamleden, Buckinghamshire
                  + 2 Apr 1877 at Syon House, Richmond
                  Children :
                  1. George Bingham, 4th Earl of Lucan , b. 8 May 1830, London , d. 5 Jun 1914, Laleham House,
                  2. Lady Augusta Bingham, * b. 7 Feb 1832, * d. 3 Jul 1888, Alington House
                  3. Lady Lavinia Bingham, * b. 2 May 1835, Portman Sq., Marylebone , * d. 15 Sep 1864, South Park
                  4. Hon. Richard Bingham, * b. 6 Jan 1847, * d. 12 Nov 1924
                  Source(s) :
                  1. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, 1938.1608
                  2. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. 8:239
                  3. Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 1999. 1777


                  32.
                  Richard Bingham
                  2nd Earl of Lucan, 8th Baronet
                  * 4 Dec 1764
                  + 30 Jun 1839 in London, Knightsbridge
                  Son of Sir Charles Bingham, 7th Baronet, and Margaret Smith, Richard Bingham was born 4 December 1764. He was educated at Westminster School but matriculated in 1781 at Christ Church, Oxford. As a Whig he was M.P. for St. Albans from 1790-1800 but joined the Tories in 1830. When his father was created Earl of Lucan in 1795, he was styled Lord Bingham until 1799 when his father died and he became the 2nd Earl of Lucan. From 1801 until 1839 he was a Representative Peer. On 26 May 1794 in London, he married Lady Elizabeth Belasyse, previously divorced by Bernard Edward Howard who became Duke of Norfolk in 1815. Richard and Elizabeth became the parents of six children. They were happy for ten years but then Lord Lucan had gout. She took to the game of racketing, a derivative form of tennis played against a wall, and neglected him. After two years of wrangling they separated in 1804. She died in Paris in 1819 and he at Serpentine Terrace, Knightsbridge, London, 30 June 1839.
                  Married 26 May 1794 in London
                  Lady Elizabeth Belasyse
                  * 17 Jan 1770 in London
                  + 24 Mar 1819 in Paris
                  Children :
                  1. Lady Louisa Bingham, b. 1 Mar 1798, d. 16 Apr 1882, Gosford House
                  2. George Charles Bingham, 3rd Earl of Lucan ,*b. 16 Apr 1800, London , d. 10 Nov 1888, 12 South Street, Park Lane, London
                  3. Lady Elizabeth Bingham, d. 9 Sep 1838
                  Source(s) :
                  1. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, 1938.1608
                  2. Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels, Fürstliche Häuser. 1964
                  3. The Complete Peerage, 1936, Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. 5:267a ; 8 : 238
                  4. Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 1999. 1776

                  64.
                  Charles Bingham
                  1st Earl of Lucan, 7th Baronet
                  * 22 Sep 1735
                  + 29 Mar 1799 in London
                  Charles Bingham was born 22 September 1735, son of Sir John Bingham, 5th Baronet, and Anne Vesey. After his elder brother's death when Charles was only seventeen years old, he became the 7th Baronet. In 1760 he married Margaret Smith of whom, as her father was supposed to have been 'a stocking-weaver at Nottingham', scathing comments were made on her affectations and aristocratic airs. Charles and Margaret became the parents of a son and a daughter. He was M.P. for County Mayo 1761-1776. In 1775 Sir John Blaquiere described him: 'In private life a respectable, amiable man - independent from fortune. It is possible in the ensuing Session he may support ( the Government ). His object is a Peerage.' On 24 July 1776 he was created Baron Lucan of Castlebar and took his seat on 24 June 1778. He was a Whig M.P. for Northampton 1782-1784. Having lost his seat in the General Election of 1784, he became one of the ' Fox's Martyrs.' Before 1786 he established a school at Castlebar, but not until 1 October 1795 was he created Earl of Lucan. This honour he held for only four years as he died in 1799 aged sixty-three. His widow, who survived until 1814, was so noted for her skill in copying miniatures that even Sir Joshua Reynolds commented on her talent.
                  Married 25 Aug 1760 in Bath
                  Margaret Smith
                  * est 1740
                  + 27 Feb 1814, St. James‘s Place
                  Children :
                  1. Lady Lavinia Bingham, b. 27 Jul 1762, d. 8 Jun 1831, Spencer House, St.James's Place, London
                  2. Richard Bingham, 2nd Earl of Lucan , b. 4 Dec 1764, d. 30 Jun 1839, London, Knightsbridge
                  Source(s) :
                  1. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, 1938. 1608
                  2. The Complete Peerage, 1936 , Doubleday, H.A. & Lord Howard de Walden. 8:237
                  3. Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 1999. 1776


                  128.
                  Sir John Bingham
                  5th Baronet
                  * 1696
                  + 21 Sep 1749
                  Married before 1730
                  Anne Vesey
                  * est. 1697/1698
                  + Feb 1761
                  Children :
                  1. Sir John Bingham, 6th Baronet , b. 1730, *d. 10 Oct 1752
                  2. Charles Bingham, 1st Earl of Lucan, 7th Baronet , b. 22 Sep 1735, d. 29 Mar 1799, London
                  Source(s) :
                  1. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, 1938. 1608
                  2. Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 1999. 1776
                  3. The Complete Baronetage, London, Microprint 1983. , Cokayne, George Edward. 2:399
                  4. The Ancestry of Diana, Princess of Wales for Twelve Generations, Boston, 2007., Evans, Richard K. nr. 132


                  256.
                  Sir George Bingham
                  4th Baronet
                  * in Ireland
                  + aft 1727
                  Married abt 1688
                  Mary Scotts
                  *
                  +
                  Children :
                  1. Sir John Bingham, 5th Baronet , b. 1696, d. 21 Sep 1749
                  2. Henry Bingham
                  3. George Bingham
                  Source(s) :
                  1. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, 1938. 1608
                  2. The Complete Baronetage, London, Microprint 1983. , Cokayne, George Edward. II 399
                  3. Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 1999 . 1776
                  4. The Ancestry of Diana, Princess of Wales for Twelve Generations, Boston, 2007., Evans, Richard K.47


                  512.
                  Sir George Bingham
                  2nd Baronet
                  * abt 1625 in Ireland
                  + bef 1 Jun 1682 in Ireland
                  Married 5 Dec 1661
                  Rebecca Middleton
                  * abt 1637
                  +
                  Source(s) :
                  1. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, 1938. 1608
                  2. The Complete Baronetage, London, Microprint 1983., Cokayne, George Edward. II 398
                  3. Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 1999. 1776

                  1024.
                  Sir Henry Bingham, of Castlebar, co Mayo
                  1st Baronet
                  * 1573 in Ireland
                  + bef 27 Jan 1659 in Ireland
                  Married bef 1625
                  Catherine Byrne
                  *
                  + 31 Oct 1673 / 21 Jul 1674
                  Source(s) :
                  1. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, 1938. 1608
                  2. The Complete Baronetage, London, Microprint 1983., Cokayne, George Edward. II 398
                  3. Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 1999. 1776

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                  • Manfred Renner
                    Erfahrener Benutzer
                    • 23.12.2006
                    • 1014

                    #10
                    Noch Richard John Bingham

                    Hi Jeanne, leider war der Text ( Daten ) zu lang, somit hier der zweite Teil. Viel Erfolg mit Deinem Roman

                    HG, Manfred

                    Teil 2 :

                    2048.
                    Sir George Bingham, of Ballymot, co Sligo
                    Military Governor of Sligo
                    * in Ireland
                    + Sep 1599 in Dublin
                    Married 1569
                    Cicely Martin, of Athelhampton
                    *
                    + 1598 in Ireland
                    Children :
                    1. Sir Henry Bingham, of Castlebar, co Mayo, 1st Baronet , b. 1573, d. Bef 27 Jan 1659
                    2. John Bingham
                    Source(s) :
                    1. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, 1938.1608
                    2. History and Antiquities of the County of Dorset, Hutchins, John. 2:582
                    3. The Genealogist [of London] new series . 3:164
                    4. Miscellanea Genealogica et Heraldica, 2nd series, 1886-1894. 2:313


                    4096.
                    Robert Bingham, of Melcombe, Dorset
                    *
                    + 1561
                    Married
                    Alice Coker
                    *
                    +
                    Children :
                    1. Robert Bingham, of Melcombe, Dorset, d. 1593
                    2. Sir George Bingham, of Ballymot, co Sligo, Military Governor of Sligo , bur. 27 Sep 1599, Dublin
                    Source(s) :
                    1. Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage, London, 1938.1608
                    2. Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 1999. 1776


                    8192.
                    Robert Bingham, of Melcombe, Dorset
                    * in England
                    + 1524 in England
                    Married
                    Joan Delalynde ( or de la Lynde )
                    *
                    +
                    Source(s) :
                    Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 1999. 1776


                    16384.
                    Richard Bingham, of Melcombe, Dorset[
                    * in England
                    + 1480 in England
                    Married
                    Margaret Baskett
                    * in England
                    + in England
                    Source(s) :
                    Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 1999. 1776


                    32768.
                    Robert Bingham, of Binghams Melcombe
                    * in England
                    + 1431 in England
                    Married 21 Oct 1408
                    Margaret Frampton
                    *
                    +
                    Source(s) :
                    Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 1999. 1776


                    65536
                    Richard Bingham, of Melcombe, Dorset[
                    * in England
                    + bef 1404
                    Married
                    Catherine Silvester
                    *
                    +
                    Source(s) :
                    Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 1999. 1776


                    131072.
                    Robert Bingham, of Melcombe, Dorset
                    * in England
                    + in England
                    Married
                    Catherine Aston
                    * in England
                    + in England
                    Source(s) :
                    Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 1999. 1776


                    262144.
                    Richard Bingham, of Melcombe, Dorset
                    * in England
                    + in England
                    Married
                    Pernell ( Parnelle ) Warnhulle ( Warnhill / Warmwell )
                    * in England
                    + in England
                    Source(s) :
                    Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 1999. 1776


                    524288.
                    Robert Bingham, of Melcombe Bingham
                    * in England
                    + 1307 in England
                    Married
                    Eleanor Wake
                    * in England
                    + in Engalnd
                    Source(s) :
                    1. Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 1999. 1776
                    2. Burke's Commoners 4 vols: 1836-1838, Burke, John. 4:371

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                    • Jeanne
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                      • 03.01.2014
                      • 1046

                      #11
                      Hallo Manfred,


                      vielen Dank! Das ist Klasse!


                      Gruß,
                      Jeanne
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                      • Manfred Renner
                        Erfahrener Benutzer
                        • 23.12.2006
                        • 1014

                        #12
                        Richard John Bingham

                        Gern geschehen, Jeanne

                        HG aus der Hansestadt Hamburg,
                        Manfred

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