[ungelöst] Father's name on marriage certificate

[NickV]

Hello, I'm sorry if this is the wrong place to post, this query being in English, but I was told this is where document translation requests should be posted.

Near the end of the second line, top left, I believe the father of the bride's name is given as Daniel, but I can't quite make it out. The line looks a little bit smudged, I think. Someone suggested it may have been crossed out as irrelevant.

https://i.imgur.com/qK4eziA.jpg

Sorry again if this is the wrong sub-forum.

[Mats]

Hello Nick,

yes, it is crossed out. I think it was a mistake. There is only the name of her first husband. When you can find the first marriage, maybe there you find the fathers name.

Greetings
Anja

[henrywilh]

In addition I'd like to say:

What appears to be "Daniel" can't really be it, because that is no big D (compared with those, who clearly are).

[Anna Sara Weingart]

Hi

Endress Käss ... von Affalterbach ...
..., und Anna Maria ...
Hanss Holtzwarths, gewesener Bürger allhier nachgelassene Wittwe

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=hansahnen&id=I24979

[henrywilh]

..., und Anna Maria ...

Es geht um DIESE Stelle!

[Anna Sara Weingart]

Hallo, der Rest des Textes würde mich auch interessieren. (ist meine Verwandtschaft)

Endress Käss ... von Affalterbach hinder-
lassner ehelicher Sohn, und Anna Maria ...
Hanss Holtzwarths, gewesener Bürger allhier nachgelassene Wittwe

[Anna Sara Weingart]

Endress Käss ... von Affalterbach hinder-
lassner ehel. Sohn, und Anna Maria ...
Hanss Holtzwarths, gewesenen Bürgers allhier nachgelassene Wittwe
syn copulirt word.

[NickV]

Thanks guys, so was it customary to not include the name of the bride's father if she was a widow?

[NickV]

Ah, interesting, what do you think the crossed out section is possibly referring to? Oh, the last word of the second line I think is 'Daniel.' Maybe I'm mistaken, I'm not familiar with these old German documents, but I thought that looked like a capital D.

[henrywilh]

So - you don't believe me?

[NickV]

Haha no x) I'm just checking if we're looking at the right word.

[henrywilh]

Guess, this is the word, you think it's "Daniel". (may be, it's "R...")
And below a name with the leading letter "D".

comp.png

A big difference!

[fps]

Thanks guys, so was it customary to not include the name of the bride's father if she was a widow?

That's the way it is, Nick.

[NickV]

Ah, thank you both, Henry and Fps. So, if the father's name wasn't usually listed, any possibilities on what the crossed out words are?

[henrywilh]

The first might be

"bey"