SCHOLZ aus Lossen Kreis Brieg

[mrodillo]

Hello! im sorry i dont speak german but im looking for information of my great grandfather who's last name was Scholz and lived near Brieg.
Full name: Johann Gottlieb Scholz, born in 6.1.1859 in Lossen (near Brieg). he came to Chile in 1884 and married Martha Kühn, apparently they had 5 children. here is the source (from the german embassy in valdivia chile)

using google translate:Hallo! Es tut mir leid, ich spreche kein Deutsch, aber ich suche Informationen zu meinem Urgroßvater, der mit Nachnamen Scholz hieß und in der Nähe von Brieg lebte.
Vollständiger Name: Johann Gottlieb Scholz, geboren am 6.1.1859 in Lossen (bei Brieg). er kam 1884 nach Chile und heiratete Martha Kühn, sie hatten offenbar 5 Kinder. hier ist die quelle (von der deutschen botschaft in valdivia chile)

https://i.imgur.com/ndYgFZ0.jpg

[Weltenwanderer]

Hi,

I have moved your comment to a new thread as the surname SCHOLZ is super common and I didn’t see any indication that you might be related to the other user.

Kind regards,
Michael

[sonki]

In case you don't have a copy of his baptism record - its online:

https://photos.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/22ebe9e1dbd87581f72e5e233698082ed4e758972faf2881b77b7e300c9baa8c_max

2nd entry - parents: Daniel Scholz & Anna Rosina Selzer.
Born on February 6th (not January), baptised on Feb 9th.

Source:
[Księgi metrykalne kościoła ewangelickiego w Łosiowie z lat 1849-1874]
Record books of the Evangelical church in Lossen from 1849-1874

https://www.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/de/jednostka/-/jednostka/4923360

[mrodillo]

In case you don't have a copy of his baptism record - its online:

https://photos.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/22ebe9e1dbd87581f72e5e233698082ed4e758972faf2881b77b7e300c9baa8c_max

2nd entry - parents: Daniel Scholz & Anna Rosina Selzer.

Source:
[Księgi metrykalne kościoła ewangelickiego w Łosiowie z lat 1849-1874]
Record books of the Evangelical church in Lossen from 1849-1874
https://www.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/...nostka/4923360

OMG you just made my whole month (perhaps year)! i've been looking for this for about a month but because i dont speak german or polish its hard. it fits perfectly with the description of my great grandfather since i got his wedding certificate in Chile and it says his parents are Daniel and Ana Rosina. im so so happy thank you. if you dont mind may i ask what else does the document say?

Marriage certificate:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVMK-1QFP

thank you again

[Weltenwanderer]

Hi,

here’s the translation - if you want to pursue this further, you should familiarise yourself with the Kurrent handwriting script.

A boy was born unto the tenant Daniel Scholz by his wife Anna Rosina née Selzer on 6 February at 11.30 p.m., which was baptised on the 9th of the month and given the name Johann Gottlieb.
Godparents:
1. midwife Therese Uebershär from here
2. small-time farmer (Häusler) Gottlieb Wende from here
3. tenant’s wife Johanne Eleonore Schmidt

Given that Daniel was a tenant, he was probably a day labourer or farmhand and not very wealthy. Let’s hope his father owned land as it will be difficult to pursue your ancestry further otherwise, given that the duplicate Lutheran churchbooks only start in 1849 and that the originals are lost.

Kind regards,
Michael

[sonki]

Btw. - I checked the church book in the period 1854-1863 and found no other entries, baptisms ect. Possibly Daniel and Anna-Rosina were from another village and only the baptism of Johann Gottlieb happened in Lossen.

Of course it is possible that I have overlooked something.

[sonki]

Ok, I found some more records:

Johann Gottlob Scholz
* 23.08.1838 Lossen
oo 27.06.1880 in Lossen with Louise Hannisch
Parents: Daniel Scholz & Anna Rosina Selzer

https://www.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/de/jednostka/-/jednostka/4736060?_Jednostka_delta=1&_Jednostka_resetCur=false&_Jednostka_cur=26

So, the marriage of their parents must have been before 1838

Overview (so far):

1. Johann Gottlieb Scholz
* 06.02.1859 Lossen, Brieg county
~ 09.02.1859 Lossen, Brieg county
> 1884 Chile

2. Daniel Scholz
* ca. 1813 Lossen, Brieg county
+ 29.11.1884 Lossen, Brieg county https://www.szukajwarchiwach.gov.pl/...dnostka_cur=92

3. Anna Rosina Selzer
+ > 1884

Children of 2. and 3.

Johann Gottlob Scholz
* 23.08.1838 Lossen
oo 27.06.1880 in Lossen with Louise Hannisch

Elisabeth Scholz
* 29.11.1849 Lossen, Brieg county
~ 02.12.1849 Lossen, Brieg county

Johann Gottfried Scholz
* 02.01.1852 Lossen, Brieg county
~ 05.01.1852 Lossen, Brieg county

Johann Gottlieb Scholz (see 1.)

4. Anton Scholz
+ Lossen

5. Maria Elisabeth Zieboltz
+ Lossen

[Weltenwanderer]

Hi,

Great find!
Since the parents were seemingly still alive when Johann Gottlob got married, it should be possible to find their death records in the civil registers and hopefully find out who their parents were.

Kind regards,
Michael

[sonki]

... it should be possible to find their death records in the civil registers and hopefully find out who their parents were.l

Right, so I found Daniel already. Should only be a matter of time to find the death record of Anna Rosina as well. Updates in the overview post above.

P.S. I checked the death records in Lossen between 1884-1895 - so far no sign of Anna Rosina born Selzer or any other child. Its not guaranteed, that, after her husbands death, she moved away, maybe to one of her children. Who knows...unfortunately the name Scholz is, as Weltenwanderer already mentioned, one if not *the* most common german name. You can find someone named Scholz in almost every village..so that makes it really hard to connect and find the right ones.

[Karl-Heinz Z]

Hello, Daniel Scholz (*1813) was born to his parents Anton Scholz and Maria Elisabeth Ziebol(t)z, all from Lossen. Daniel died on 20th of November 1884, whereas Anna Rosina Pelzer has died thereafter, as it was she to have her husbands death recorded.

Kind regards

Karl-Heinz Ziebolz
P.S. I'm looking for information concerning Ziebolz