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Hello,

I am searching for Stefan Mader, any birth or death of him.

All I know is his name and his title: ''löbl. k.k. fieldmineur - Corps'', his wife Rosalia nee Hirsch, and that he died before 1822. I got this information from his daughter's (Agnes) wedding record.


Agnes wedding entry (last one) http://data.matricula-online.eu/en/o...e/02-13/?pg=89

Is there any way of finding him?


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Hi,

I found a Steph. Maader in https://books.google.de/books?id=yqw...maader&f=false
He is mentioned in the "Mineur-Corps" at least from 1815 till 1823.
If the "seelig" entry in the wedding entry is correct, maybe it´s just a coincidence as Maader´s further promotions are mentioned here https://books.google.de/books?id=ReS...0corps&f=false.
I just read that a "Mineur-Führer" was a non-commissioned officer, thus Stephan Mader had not been listed in the almanacs.


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his title: ''löbl. k.k. fieldmineur - Corps''
Hello Milutinus,

excuse me for correcting you, but that was not his title. The "k.k. Feld-Mineurs-Corps" was a branch and unit of the k.k. austrian army with 5 companies and less than 900 men in 1813. Mineurs were a kind of pioneers.

His title was "Mineurführer", that means mineur leader, probably a corporal or sergeant rank. Each company of the Mineur-Corps had 8 Mineurführer.

So Agnes wedding entry states, Stefan Mader was a Mineurführer in the löbl. k.k. Feld-Mineurs-Corps.

Maybe the Kriegsarchiv of Austrian State Archives can help you.

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Hi,

I found a Steph. Maader in https://books.google.de/books?id=yqw...maader&f=false
He is mentioned in the "Mineur-Corps" at least from 1815 till 1823.
If the "seelig" entry in the wedding entry is correct, maybe it´s just a coincidence as Maader´s further promotions are mentioned here https://books.google.de/books?id=ReS...0corps&f=false.
I just read that a "Mineur-Führer" was a non-commissioned officer, thus Stephan Mader had not been listed in the almanacs.


Thomas

Thank you for finding it.

What are the odds that 2 different Stefan Mader exist who both are Mineur-Führer? Could there have been a mistake that it says that they were dead before 1822?
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Hello Milutinus,

excuse me for correcting you, but that was not his title. The "k.k. Feld-Mineurs-Corps" was a branch and unit of the k.k. austrian army with 5 companies and less than 900 men in 1813. Mineurs were a kind of pioneers.

His title was "Mineurführer", that means mineur leader, probably a corporal or sergeant rank. Each company of the Mineur-Corps had 8 Mineurführer.

So Agnes wedding entry states, Stefan Mader was a Mineurführer in the löbl. k.k. Feld-Mineurs-Corps.

Maybe the Kriegsarchiv of Austrian State Archives can help you.

Greetings
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Thank you Basil for clarifying that for me!
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Hello,

There were 2 Stephan Maders in the Mineurcorps. The one that was mentioned was an officer. The one you want is the Stephan Ma(a)der, born on 26.12.1758 in Nebetein near Olmütz (http://digi.archives.cz/da/permalink...scan=24#scan24).

There is a short summary of his carreer until ~1806 here (family members included): https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61...271&cat=543937

In 1812, he was declared half-invalid and was placed in the Garnisonsabteilung; see https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61...577&cat=543937)

I haven't yet found the date of his death, but I will keep looking.

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Hello,

There were 2 Stephan Maders in the Mineurcorps. The one that was mentioned was an officer. The one you want is the Stephan Ma(a)der, born on 26.12.1758 in Nebetein near Olmütz (http://digi.archives.cz/da/permalink...scan=24#scan24).

There is a short summary of his carreer until ~1806 here (family members included): https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61...271&cat=543937

In 1812, he was declared half-invalid and was placed in the Garnisonsabteilung; see https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61...577&cat=543937)

I haven't yet found the date of his death, but I will keep looking.

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Absolutely incredible! How did you manage to find him?

Are Joseph Johann and Theresia Anna Agnes his children in the second document?
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Absolutely incredible! How did you manage to find him?

Are Joseph Johann and Theresia Anna Agnes his children in the second document?
As for the first part of the question, I just had to see which documents for the k.k. Feldmineurkorps were available in https://www.familysearch.org/search/...jectIndex=2500. So, I took a look at the „Musterlisten und Standestabellen“ which include the period around 1800.

The second part of the question has been already answered, as I have seen.

I am still unable to find out what happened to him after 1812, however.

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