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  • MichaelaStrakošová
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    • 28.02.2020
    • 21

    #31
    Zitat von Paulchen_DD Beitrag anzeigen
    Hi Michaela,
    you wrote " i can see in map 2 rails (Bahngeleise), and in my photo, there is only one rail."



    "Die Abschnitte von Chemnitz nach Einsiedel und von Siebenbrunn nach Adorf wurden ab 1907 bzw. 1909 zweigleisig betrieben."


    Paulchen

    Ach. Then it's more complicated than I thought. Like AnGr wrote:
    Das ist die Suche nach der Nadel im Heuhaufe.

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    • MichaelaStrakošová
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      • 28.02.2020
      • 21

      #32
      There is written " ab 1907 bzw. 1909" what exactly does it mean: ?

      1)there were 2 rails from 1907 till 1909 and from 1909 there was again only 1 rail?
      2) there were 2 rails from 1907 or 1909 (we don know exactly) and there was only one from - its not written here?


      Now there is only 1 rail right?


      Michala

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      • Paulchen_DD
        Erfahrener Benutzer
        • 30.09.2013
        • 690

        #33
        Hi Michaela,


        some more details:
        Adressbuch 1911:

        Parochie Michaelis

        Adressbuch 1922

        Kat. 162 Stellereigebäude (= Stellwerk)
        Kat. 115 Bahnwärterhaus
        Kat. 116 Bahnwärterhaus
        Kat. 37 Scheune

        and nothing else!




        Adressbuch 1933
        https://sachsen.digital/werkansicht?tx_dlf[id]=23375&tx_dlf[page]=712
        Von der Altchemnitzer Straße zur Flurgrenze Erfenschlag


        Now I'am looking for an old map ...


        Regards
        Paulchen

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        • Paulchen_DD
          Erfahrener Benutzer
          • 30.09.2013
          • 690

          #34
          Zitat von MichaelaStrakošová Beitrag anzeigen
          There is written " ab 1907 bzw. 1909" what exactly does it mean: ?

          1)there were 2 rails from 1907 till 1909 and from 1909 there was again only 1 rail?
          2) there were 2 rails from 1907 or 1909 (we don know exactly) and there was only one from - its not written here?


          Now there is only 1 rail right?


          Michala

          there was 1 rail only till 1907 and then 2 rails

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          • MichaelaStrakošová
            Benutzer
            • 28.02.2020
            • 21

            #35
            Zitat von wrdc47 Beitrag anzeigen
            Hi Michaela,
            there are different kataster numbers in Germany. Looking intio the address book for Chemnitz from 1911 you can find Otto Richard Rothe, An der Aue-Adorfer Eisenbahn Linie, Kat.-Nr. 116, VIII Abt. This means 116 is the so-called "Brandkataster-Nr." (for the fire brigade) and not the number for constructed areas. And when you look at page 500 in this address book (https://digital.slub-dresden.de/werk.../88262/1542/0/) you will find again "An der Aue-Adorfer Eisenbahnlinie". I guess 116 is right not 166.

            So the number in the new cadastre (https://geoportal.sachsen.de/cps/ind...a-4f9628db3d7b) does not match the number in the old so-called "Brandkataster-Nr." (An der Aue-Adorfer Eisenbahn Linie, Kat.-Nr. 116, VIII Abt)?


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            • wrdc47
              Erfahrener Benutzer
              • 13.03.2018
              • 251

              #36
              Zitat von MichaelaStrakošová Beitrag anzeigen
              So the number in the new cadastre (https://geoportal.sachsen.de/cps/ind...a-4f9628db3d7b) does not match the number in the old so-called "Brandkataster-Nr." (An der Aue-Adorfer Eisenbahn Linie, Kat.-Nr. 116, VIII Abt)?


              Yes, absolutely right.
              Mit freundlichen Grüßen
              Wolfgang

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              • wrdc47
                Erfahrener Benutzer
                • 13.03.2018
                • 251

                #37
                And looking into older address books Otto Richard Rothe lives already 1901 at that address so only one rails is not a conflict.
                Mit freundlichen Grüßen
                Wolfgang

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                • Paulchen_DD
                  Erfahrener Benutzer
                  • 30.09.2013
                  • 690

                  #38
                  Hi Michaela,


                  Adressbuch 1933
                  https://sachsen.digital/werkansicht?tx_dlf[id]=23375&tx_dlf[page]=712
                  Von der Altchemnitzer Straße zur Flurgrenze Erfenschlag

                  in the attached map /Source: Geoportal.Sachsen/ you see the Railway, Altchemnitzer Straße (green) and Flurgrenze (limit of land-mark, red) Erfenschlag.
                  And there is no road! My opinion is that the address "An der Auer Eisenbahn" is only a postal address, the buildings Kat 115 and Kat 116 were located in the landscape, directly beside the rails. These buildings were needed for the block system



                  You should ask the guys from https://www.fhwe.de/



                  Paulchen
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                  • MichaelaStrakošová
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                    • 28.02.2020
                    • 21

                    #39
                    Hi Paulchen and all,
                    i agree "An der Auer Eisenbahn" is not the name of the street, but only postal address.
                    And it was really one of those building near railway in Alt Chemnitz, near Michaelis Kirche.
                    One building was destroyed and second one may exist, or another building may be standing there, when i look into map.
                    The photo I have, will be from 1907 or before- there is only one trail.


                    I will try to ask forum https://www.fhwe.de/ for more information. Thx for tip.


                    I tried to find some youtube video with camera in train - from Chemnitz to Aue to see ladscape (at least the wall on which the house stood could be seen), but I haven't succeeded yet.


                    Thank you for your time, you all spent with my problem.
                    I hope that I will be able to help you when you need to look for something in the Czech Republic.




                    Michaela Strakošová

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                    • wrdc47
                      Erfahrener Benutzer
                      • 13.03.2018
                      • 251

                      #40
                      Hi Michaela,
                      today I was at "An der Aue-Adorfer Eisenbahnlinie". And bad news: Both buildings I've shown in https://forum.ahnenforschung.net/sho...8&postcount=14 no longer exist. There are many constructional works in that area for the last 20 years. But maybe the pull-down was many years earlier.
                      Mit freundlichen Grüßen
                      Wolfgang

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                      • MichaelaStrakošová
                        Benutzer
                        • 28.02.2020
                        • 21

                        #41
                        Zitat von wrdc47 Beitrag anzeigen
                        Hi Michaela,
                        today I was at "An der Aue-Adorfer Eisenbahnlinie". And bad news: Both buildings I've shown in https://forum.ahnenforschung.net/sho...8&postcount=14 no longer exist. There are many constructional works in that area for the last 20 years. But maybe the pull-down was many years earlier.

                        Hi, thank you for remembering.

                        Progress cannot be stopped . It should be nice to find that building, but does not matter.
                        Thanks again for your message.

                        Michala

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