[gelöst] I need help with transcription and translation,

[seekingherbertkosma]

Quelle bzw. Art des Textes: Sterbebuch
Jahr, aus dem der Text stammt: 1888-1893
Ort/Gegend der Text-Herkunft: Johannaburg
Namen um die es sich handeln sollte: Risy Hermine, Risy Maria, Risy Theodor and Risy Josefa

Hello

I need help with transcription and translation of the death of these 4 family members

1. Risy Hermine

http://digi.archives.cz/da/permalink?xid=29e3f91ac933f2f4:2c7af293:146ec53500c:-7e6f&scan=198#scan198

Risy Hermine, Tochter
??????????????
Theodor Risy

Risy Hermine, daughter
??????????????
Theodor Risy


2. Risy Maria

http://digi.archives.cz/da/permalink?xid=29e3f91ac933f2f4:2c7af293:146ec53500c:-7e6f&scan=192#scan192

Risy Maria,
gebürtig aus ????
????????????
Theodor Risy

Risy Maria,
born in ????
????????????
Theodor Risy

3. Risy Theodor

http://digi.archives.cz/da/permalink?xid=29e3f91ac933f2f4:2c7af293:146ec53500c:-7e6f&scan=211#scan211

Risy Theodor gebürtig
aus Lissitz in
Mähren. ??????
??????????

Risy Theodor born
in Lissitz in
Mähren. ??????
??????????

4. Risy Josefa

http://digi.archives.cz/da/permalink?xid=29e3f91ac933f2f4:2c7af293:146ec53500c:-7e6f&scan=229#scan229

Risy Josefa gebürtig
???????
in Mähren.???
??? + pension Kunstgärtner
??? Anton Risy

Risy Josefa born
???????
in Mähren.???
??? + retired art gardener.
??? Anton Risy

Thanks

[benangel]

1. f. b. Bräuers
2. gebürtig aus Brünn Ehegattin des Bräuers Theodor Risy
3. Pächter des fb. Bräuhauses
4. Risy Josefa geborene Frey aus Jaischbitz in Mähren, Ehegattin des + pension. Kunstgärtners Anton Risy

[seekingherbertkosma]

Hallo Bernd

Thank you very much for the quick help.

Just one question, the "f. b." is it short for the brewery name or has it a other meaning?

1. Risy Hermine, Tochter
f. b. Bräuers
Theodor Risy

Risy Hermine, daughter
?? brewer
Theodor Risy


2. Risy Maria,
gebürtig aus Brünn
Ehegattin des Bräuers
Theodor Risy

Risy Maria,
born in Brno,
wife of the brewer
Theodor Risy


3. Risy Theodor gebürtig
aus Lissitz in
Mähren. Pächter des
fb. Bräuhauses


Risy Theodor born
in Lissitz in
Mähren. tenant of the
fb. brewhouse

4. Risy Josefa geborene
Frey aus Jaischbitz
In Mähren, Ehegattin
des + pension. Kunstgärtners
Anton Risy


Risy Josefa born
Frey from Jaischbitz
in Moravia, wife of
the + pension. Art gardener
Anton Risy

[benangel]

I am sorry but I have no idea about the meaning of fb.

[Anna Sara Weingart]

... the "f. b." is it short for the brewery name or has it a other meaning? ...

Hallo
No, it is not the name of the brewery.


Look at this picture of an old newspaper:

[Anna Sara Weingart]

Then, you can conclude: it means: f. b. = fürstbischöflich breslauisches

[Anna Sara Weingart]

Both versions are correct spellings: lowercase letters or capital letters: F. B. = Fürstbischöflich Breslauisches

[Anna Sara Weingart]

Theoretically, it is also possible, that "f. b." just means "fürstbischöflich". But in our case, "fürstbischöflich" means de facto "fürstbischöflich breslauisch".

Therefore, it is irrelevant, if you translate "f. b." as "fürstbischöflich breslauisch", or just "fürstbischöflich", because, in our case, both have de facto the same meaning: "fürstbischöflich breslauisch"

[Anna Sara Weingart]

That's because all of the area of Jánský vrch was in possession of the bishop.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jánský_vrch

He also could determine the brewing rights in his area. If you have a Bräuhaus there, than you have a privilege (franchise), that you had received from the bishop. => You have a "f. b. Bräuhaus"

[Anna Sara Weingart]

The explanation of the abbreviations:

fb. Bräuhaus = fürstbischöfliches Bräuhaus
Pächter des fb. Bräuhauses = Pächter des fürstbischöflichen Bräuhauses

f.b. Bräuer = fürstbischöflicher Bräuer
Hermine Tochter des f.b. Bräuers = Hermine Tochter des fürstbischöflichen Bräuers

[seekingherbertkosma]

Hello Anna Sara

thank you very much for the detailed explanation.

[Anna Sara Weingart]

I have to make a correction:
The owner of the brewery was the Prince-Bishopric of Breslau. The father of Hermine was just the tenant ("Pächter") of the brewery.

[seekingherbertkosma]

ok, thanks.

I thought that the Prince-Bishopric of Breslau just issued the privileges, and Theodor was just a tenant of the real owner of the brewery/property.

[Anna Sara Weingart]

I think, after the secularisation in the first half of the 19th century, the Prince-Bishopric may not have been the real owner of the brewery anymore.
Because the prince-bishoprics "property and estates had been expropriated when the prince-bishoprics were secularized." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German...n#Consequences