Families Sell and Guse, from Nielep and Tempelburg

[Marcio Scheibler]

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Hello, friends!!!

I am Marcio Scheibler from Brazil.

I have ancestors from Pommern that emigrated to Brazil in the middle of 19th century and I would like to know if you can help me with some information

- Johann Friedrich Hermann Sell, born in November 19th, 1847, probably in Nelep (Nielep) city. He was son of Johann Friedrich Sell and Carolina Muller (the mother name can be wrong). He was married with Johanna Guse (unknown parents), born about 1847 in Tempelburg.

Thanks

[Herbstkind93]

The parish register of Nelep was destroyed in 1945.

The parish register of Tempelburg you can see here

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18355-54737-21?cc=1874205

[Herbstkind93]

For 1847 I just found a Johann Wilhelm GUSE *10.3.1847 (Son of David GUSE and Wilhelmine MEWALD)

another son: Christian Gottlob *27.10.1851

[Marcio Scheibler]

I found Hanna Frederike GUST, in 1845:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18355-57133-53?cc=1874205&wc=MKH2-DPX:171336501,171761001,171867001,171867002

Sadly, I don't know the name of parents of my ancestor. So, in the moment is not possible to confirm if the woman in register above is who I am looking for.

She died before April, 1900, in Brazil. In the grave only appear "with 54 years old".

[Herbstkind93]

I found Hanna Christiane GUSE *25.6.1843
natural daughter of C. GUSE (2nd daughter of Johann GUSE)

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18355-57897-56?cc=1874205&wc=MKH2-DPX:171336501,171761001,171867001,171867002

[Herbstkind93]

You don't know when and where they did marry?
I mean Mr Sell and Johanne Guse.

[Marcio Scheibler]

I never found when and where mr. Sell and Johanna Guse married.

Their daughter that is my ancestor of 4th generation, called Henriette Christiana Sell, born in Brazil, in 1868. As mr. Sell born in 1847, I think Henriette was the first. But the marriage is a mystery yet.

[Marcio Scheibler]

In the register that you put above, why the name of C. Guse and Johann Guse appears in the mother column?

[Herbstkind93]

C. Guse was the unmarried mother of Hanna Christiane.
If the mother was unmarried it was common to write the name of the mother's father in the same column.
The father of Hanna Christiane is unknown.

[Herbstkind93]

A godmother of Hanna Christiane was Hanna MEHN married to Johann Christian GUSE (probably he was the oncle of Hanna Christiane).
I found two children of Johann Christian: Wilhelmine Auguste *23.8.1841 and Friedrich Wilhelm *4.3.1845

[Herbstkind93]

How you know that Johanna Guse was born in Tempelburg?

[Marcio Scheibler]

It is very confused, but I understood

So, we don´t have the Hanna's father, but we have the mother (C. Guse) and the grandfather (Johann Guse).

In the old evangelical books of my city in Brazil, I found the baptism registers of the sons of mr. Sell and Johanna Guse and there appeared Tempelburg like her city

[Herbstkind93]

Yes and the grandfather was a Tuchmacher= a cloth-maker

[Marcio Scheibler]

In the moment I can not confirm that Hanna Guse as my ancestor, but the possibility is great.

How I said, in the grave only appears "with 54 years old". There are not birth and death dates. This situation became the search complicated.

[Herbstkind93]

You have to find a brazilian death record of 1897 or 1898.