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  • PzGren4345
    Gesperrt
    • 23.10.2017
    • 56

    #16
    ok. vielen danke. It is a strange case because we have a object... but there are buttons of feldbluse, why there isn't the body? and if he was captured, why in 1960's he was still missing? I think that: he is still on the hill or he was found by Mutter der Toten/Mamma Lucia Apicella and he is a unbekannte in Cassino or Pomezia

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    • PzGren4345
      Gesperrt
      • 23.10.2017
      • 56

      #17
      For all German people with relatives still missing in Italy.. well, they can ask my help.

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      • ulrike G.-W.
        Erfahrener Benutzer
        • 08.06.2009
        • 248

        #18
        I have found a picture of the house Körnerstraße 19. It was built in 1907:



        And I think I've found Karl's parents:
        Karl Ernst Wilhelm Roth, born 8.10.1877 in Zeilhard, Kreis Dieburg died 11.5.1955 in Offenbach, Körnerstraße 19!!!
        He was a "Rektor" means kind of director of a school
        He was married with Adelheid Luise Klotilde Köhler

        The Grandparents were Ludwig Roth, a teacher, died in Groß-Zimmern, Kreis Dieburg
        and Anna Maria Kühn, died in Groß-Zimmern, Kreis Dieburg



        I'll try to find more.....
        Angehängte Dateien
        Meine Namen und Orte, zu denen ich noch suche:
        Frankfurt/Main: Rothenburger
        Odenwald: Rotenberger
        Taunus: Söllner, Jung, Buchecker
        Offenbach/Main: Schulz, Mehl, Leonhard, Hertzog, Gumb/p
        Pommern: Goldmund
        Hannover: Pape, Hagedorn, Rübenack, Backhaus
        Unterfranken: Ankenbrand, Reinhard, Pfeuffer, Kaemerer, Zehnder, Brach
        Linz (Ö): Reder, Karigl
        Mannheim, Oels: Bartsch
        heutiges Polen: Tabor, Kaczanowski, Hachula, Rataj
        Neumark: Buchholz, Helterhof

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        • Kasstor
          Erfahrener Benutzer
          • 09.11.2009
          • 13440

          #19
          Hello,

          Karl´s probable parents married in Frankfurt Main Oct 5, 1911. no other information on children, Klotilde´s death etc.
          One witness was Friedrich Roth, teacher, 35 yrs, living in Sprendlingen, maybe Karl´s uncle.

          Regards,

          Thomas
          FN Pein (Quickborn vor 1830), FN Hinsch (Poppenbüttel, Schenefeld), FN Holle (Hamburg, Lüchow?), FN Ludwig/Niesel (Frankenstein/Habelschwerdt) FN Tönnies (Meelva bei Karuse-Estland, später Hamburg), FN Lindloff (Altona, Lüneburg, Suderburg)

          Ceterum censeo progeniem hominum esse deminuendam

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          • ulrike G.-W.
            Erfahrener Benutzer
            • 08.06.2009
            • 248

            #20
            Zitat von Kasstor Beitrag anzeigen
            Hello,

            Karl´s probable parents married in Frankfurt Main Oct 5, 1911. no other information on children, Klotilde´s death etc.
            One witness was Friedrich Roth, teacher, 35 yrs, living in Sprendlingen, maybe Karl´s uncle.

            Regards,

            Thomas

            At the moment I've found it, too. :-)
            Angehängte Dateien
            Meine Namen und Orte, zu denen ich noch suche:
            Frankfurt/Main: Rothenburger
            Odenwald: Rotenberger
            Taunus: Söllner, Jung, Buchecker
            Offenbach/Main: Schulz, Mehl, Leonhard, Hertzog, Gumb/p
            Pommern: Goldmund
            Hannover: Pape, Hagedorn, Rübenack, Backhaus
            Unterfranken: Ankenbrand, Reinhard, Pfeuffer, Kaemerer, Zehnder, Brach
            Linz (Ö): Reder, Karigl
            Mannheim, Oels: Bartsch
            heutiges Polen: Tabor, Kaczanowski, Hachula, Rataj
            Neumark: Buchholz, Helterhof

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            • PzGren4345
              Gesperrt
              • 23.10.2017
              • 56

              #21
              wow he had a big house

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              • PzGren4345
                Gesperrt
                • 23.10.2017
                • 56

                #22
                He was a unteroffizier and according Rangers many german unterofficers were killed by snipers during a fight on 16.9.43 but i can't say the date certainly because i have only the information "Sept. 1943"

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                • PzGren4345
                  Gesperrt
                  • 23.10.2017
                  • 56

                  #23
                  it is a strange case... we have a name, a photo but there isn't a grave or a document on him. I ask on this forum because a soldier must not disappear into nothingness

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                  • PzGren4345
                    Gesperrt
                    • 23.10.2017
                    • 56

                    #24
                    I think he have relatives because usually they asked after the war to DRK and his photo is in the archive of DRK

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                    • ulrike G.-W.
                      Erfahrener Benutzer
                      • 08.06.2009
                      • 248

                      #25
                      Zitat von PzGren4345 Beitrag anzeigen
                      wow he had a big house
                      No, it wasn't his own house. It was a kind of public building. The owner was the country "Hessen". Maybe it was a house that belonged to a school. Some of the other residents were teachers, too.
                      Meine Namen und Orte, zu denen ich noch suche:
                      Frankfurt/Main: Rothenburger
                      Odenwald: Rotenberger
                      Taunus: Söllner, Jung, Buchecker
                      Offenbach/Main: Schulz, Mehl, Leonhard, Hertzog, Gumb/p
                      Pommern: Goldmund
                      Hannover: Pape, Hagedorn, Rübenack, Backhaus
                      Unterfranken: Ankenbrand, Reinhard, Pfeuffer, Kaemerer, Zehnder, Brach
                      Linz (Ö): Reder, Karigl
                      Mannheim, Oels: Bartsch
                      heutiges Polen: Tabor, Kaczanowski, Hachula, Rataj
                      Neumark: Buchholz, Helterhof

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                      • ulrike G.-W.
                        Erfahrener Benutzer
                        • 08.06.2009
                        • 248

                        #26
                        Zitat von PzGren4345 Beitrag anzeigen
                        I think he have relatives because usually they asked after the war to DRK and his photo is in the archive of DRK

                        You've got a photo?
                        Meine Namen und Orte, zu denen ich noch suche:
                        Frankfurt/Main: Rothenburger
                        Odenwald: Rotenberger
                        Taunus: Söllner, Jung, Buchecker
                        Offenbach/Main: Schulz, Mehl, Leonhard, Hertzog, Gumb/p
                        Pommern: Goldmund
                        Hannover: Pape, Hagedorn, Rübenack, Backhaus
                        Unterfranken: Ankenbrand, Reinhard, Pfeuffer, Kaemerer, Zehnder, Brach
                        Linz (Ö): Reder, Karigl
                        Mannheim, Oels: Bartsch
                        heutiges Polen: Tabor, Kaczanowski, Hachula, Rataj
                        Neumark: Buchholz, Helterhof

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                        • PzGren4345
                          Gesperrt
                          • 23.10.2017
                          • 56

                          #27
                          yes

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                          • PzGren4345
                            Gesperrt
                            • 23.10.2017
                            • 56

                            #28
                            but i don't know how to share on this forum if you want i'll try to send it via email

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                            • Kasstor
                              Erfahrener Benutzer
                              • 09.11.2009
                              • 13440

                              #29
                              Got it!
                              Angehängte Dateien
                              FN Pein (Quickborn vor 1830), FN Hinsch (Poppenbüttel, Schenefeld), FN Holle (Hamburg, Lüchow?), FN Ludwig/Niesel (Frankenstein/Habelschwerdt) FN Tönnies (Meelva bei Karuse-Estland, später Hamburg), FN Lindloff (Altona, Lüneburg, Suderburg)

                              Ceterum censeo progeniem hominum esse deminuendam

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                              • PzGren4345
                                Gesperrt
                                • 23.10.2017
                                • 56

                                #30
                                here the photo. i found it in march of 2017 but i contacted also WAST but they didn't answer me

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