In search for family of Olga Stricker, born on 1-3-1909 at Frankfurt am Main

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  • els
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    • 17.12.2017
    • 72

    In search for family of Olga Stricker, born on 1-3-1909 at Frankfurt am Main

    Dear Forum member,

    On the Dutch Jewish Monument is the name of Olga Stricker. She was born on 01-03-1909 at Frankfurt am Main and came on 23-06-1933 from Wiesbaden to The Hague in The Netherlands. Her nationality was Czech. Olga Stricker was murdered on 09-04-1943 at Sobibor.

    I like to know who her parents were. Do you know the names of her father and mother? Did she have brothers and sisters?

    Hope you would help me.

    Thanks in advance.

    With kind regards,

    Els
    The Netherlands

    Olga Stricker
    https://www.joodsmonument.nl/nl/page/146314/olga-stricker
    https://www.bundesarchiv.de/gedenkbuch/de979925
    http://denhaag.digitalestamboom.nl/(...ok=R&id=488262
    http://denhaag.digitalestamboom.nl/(...k=O&id=3430170
    Zuletzt geändert von els; 23.04.2019, 13:30.
  • Kasstor
    Erfahrener Benutzer
    • 09.11.2009
    • 13440

    #2
    Hi,


    a story not yet proven.

    Robert Stricker, a merchant, * Aug 26 1876 Ledenitz ( Bohemia ), residing Goettingen, married to
    Johanna Goldschmidt * May 22, 1882 Frankfurt
    Mar 8, 1905 in Frankfurt ( Main ) divorce in 1913
    groom´s parents: Markus St. , deceased merchant in Budweis, Karoline nee Kronberger residing Budweis
    bride´s parents: Max G. commission agent Lina nee Kahn both residing in Frankfurt

    Willem Henrik Gerard Vos, a singer, * Sep 23, 1894 ´s Gravenhage, residing Frankfurt married to Johanna Goldschmidt ( Stricker )
    June 20, 1917 in Frankfurt ( Main ) divorced in 1929 https://www.openarch.nl/hga:D9DAA8BD...B-08A4DB22C893
    Johanna dec Oct 6, 1938 ´s Gravenhage

    As Olga´s death was also registered in ´s Gravenhage in 1950 https://www.openarch.nl/hga:402932DD...9-5DA9E6F3ED00 , I suppose she was Johanna´s daughter. 110 yrs deadline for births in Germany under privacy law.

    Regards,


    Thomas
    Zuletzt geändert von Kasstor; 23.04.2019, 10:36.
    FN Pein (Quickborn vor 1830), FN Hinsch (Poppenbüttel, Schenefeld), FN Holle (Hamburg, Lüchow?), FN Ludwig/Niesel (Frankenstein/Habelschwerdt) FN Tönnies (Meelva bei Karuse-Estland, später Hamburg), FN Lindloff (Altona, Lüneburg, Suderburg)

    Ceterum censeo progeniem hominum esse deminuendam

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    • Kasstor
      Erfahrener Benutzer
      • 09.11.2009
      • 13440

      #3
      Heinz Walter Stricker, son to Robert and Johanna,
      died Mar 12, 1909, at the age of 1 in Frankfurt ( born in Mainz ).
      brother https://www.joodsmonument.nl/en/page.../kurt-stricker



      Thomas
      Zuletzt geändert von Kasstor; 23.04.2019, 10:34.
      FN Pein (Quickborn vor 1830), FN Hinsch (Poppenbüttel, Schenefeld), FN Holle (Hamburg, Lüchow?), FN Ludwig/Niesel (Frankenstein/Habelschwerdt) FN Tönnies (Meelva bei Karuse-Estland, später Hamburg), FN Lindloff (Altona, Lüneburg, Suderburg)

      Ceterum censeo progeniem hominum esse deminuendam

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      • els
        Benutzer
        • 17.12.2017
        • 72

        #4
        Zitat von Kasstor Beitrag anzeigen
        Hi,


        a story not yet proven.

        Robert Stricker, a merchant, * Aug 26 1876 Ledenitz ( Bohemia ), residing Goettingen, married to
        Johanna Goldschmidt * May 22, 1882 Frankfurt
        Mar 8, 1905 in Frankfurt ( Main ) divorce in 1913
        groom´s parents: Markus St. , deceased merchant in Budweis, Karoline nee Kronberger residing Budweis
        bride´s parents: Max G. commission agent Lina nee Kahn both residing in Frankfurt

        Willem Henrik Gerard Vos, a singer, * Sep 23, 1894 ´s Gravenhage, residing Frankfurt married to Johanna Goldschmidt ( Stricker )
        June 20, 1917 in Frankfurt ( Main ) divorced in 1929 https://www.openarch.nl/hga:D9DAA8BD...B-08A4DB22C893
        Johanna dec Oct 6, 1938 ´s Gravenhage

        As Olga´s death was also registered in ´s Gravenhage in 1950 https://www.openarch.nl/hga:402932DD...9-5DA9E6F3ED00 , I suppose she was Johanna´s daughter. 110 yrs deadline for births in Germany under privacy law.

        Regards,


        Thomas

        Thank you very much!

        Unfortunately it is not (yet) proven.

        I hoped that there was a 100 yrs deadline for births in Germany, but I read that this is a wrong assumption of my.

        Johanna Goldschmidt and Willem Hendrik Gerard Vos came from Wiesbaden on March 15, 1928 to Burgemeester's Jacobslaan 49 in Bussum. Willem Hendrik Gerard Vos leaves on December 10, 1929 to Kapellenstraße 66 in Wiesbaden. From 1932 he lives in B. On the cart of Johanna Goldschmidt is mentioned November 12, 1930 Germany ex officio. Later she lives in The Hague.

        Kind regards,
        Els
        Zuletzt geändert von els; 27.04.2019, 14:30.

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        • els
          Benutzer
          • 17.12.2017
          • 72

          #5
          Zitat von Kasstor Beitrag anzeigen
          Heinz Walter Stricker, son to Robert and Johanna,
          died Mar 12, 1909, at the age of 1 in Frankfurt ( born in Mainz ).
          brother https://www.joodsmonument.nl/en/page.../kurt-stricker



          Thomas
          Thank you very much!

          Does it mean that Heinz Walter Stricker was born in 1907 in Mainz (due to the 110 yrs deadline)?
          Zuletzt geändert von els; 27.04.2019, 14:32.

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          • Kasstor
            Erfahrener Benutzer
            • 09.11.2009
            • 13440

            #6
            Zitat von els Beitrag anzeigen
            Does it mean that Heinz Walter Stricker was born in 1907 in Mainz (due to the 110 yrs deadline)?
            The document open to the public is the death record as there is a deadline of 30 years for that kind of papers.

            Regards,


            Thomas
            FN Pein (Quickborn vor 1830), FN Hinsch (Poppenbüttel, Schenefeld), FN Holle (Hamburg, Lüchow?), FN Ludwig/Niesel (Frankenstein/Habelschwerdt) FN Tönnies (Meelva bei Karuse-Estland, später Hamburg), FN Lindloff (Altona, Lüneburg, Suderburg)

            Ceterum censeo progeniem hominum esse deminuendam

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            • els
              Benutzer
              • 17.12.2017
              • 72

              #7
              Is there a way to view (online) the birth certificate of Olga Stricker?

              Is there a way to find out more in Wiesbaden?
              Olga Stricker came on 23-06-1933 from Wiesbaden to The Hague in The Netherlands.

              Kurt Stricker came on 07-03-1934 and 30-09-1936 from Wiesbaden to The Hague in The Netherlands. His mother Johanna Goldschmidt en stepfather Willem Hendrik Gerard Vos (alias Willy Vos Mendes) came on 15-03-1928 from Wiesbaden to the Burgemeester ’s Jacobslaan 49 in Bussum in The Netherlands. They divorce on 18-04-1929. Willem Hendrik Gerard Vos departs on 10-12-1929 to the Kapellenstraße 66 in Wiesbaden. On the cart of Johanna Goldschmidt is mentioned 12-11-1930 Germany ex officio. On August 12, 1933, she moved from Wiesbaden to The Hague.
              Zuletzt geändert von els; 30.04.2019, 18:41.

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              • els
                Benutzer
                • 17.12.2017
                • 72

                #9
                The death certificate of Olga Stricker is made up on 1950-02-10 in The Netherlands.
                Is it possible that also a death certificate has been made up in Germany in which the parents are mentioned?

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                • sophonibal
                  Benutzer
                  • 18.01.2019
                  • 93

                  #10
                  Hello els,
                  You will not find the birth certificate anywhere online.
                  You may try and write to the Standesamt Frankfurt, explain the case and ask for the birth certificate. It's under privacy law, but this special case may be an exception. I think there are exceptions for example for historical research and when the person is dead for a long time (think of the Stolperstein Projekt where a lot of research has to be done in advance). I don't think there will be a death certificate, but you may ask as well. In Wiesbaden you may ask for Meldeunterlagen and possibly find out where the persons have lived.

                  Good luck,
                  sophi
                  Zuletzt geändert von sophonibal; 30.04.2019, 22:02.

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                  • els
                    Benutzer
                    • 17.12.2017
                    • 72

                    #11
                    Hello Sophi,

                    Thank you very much for your kind words and tips.

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                    • russenmaedchen
                      Erfahrener Benutzer
                      • 01.08.2010
                      • 1700

                      #12
                      Hello els,
                      do you know this source?
                      This document mentions Kurt and Olga as his children.
                      Portál holocaust.cz představuje obsáhlý a unikátní zdroj informací k tématu holocaustu, rasismu a antisemitismu.
                      Viele Grüße
                      russenmädchen






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                      • els
                        Benutzer
                        • 17.12.2017
                        • 72

                        #13
                        Dear Russenmädchen,

                        More than 2 years I have been in search if Olga and Kurt were related.

                        I am very grateful for this message of you with this link to the document.

                        Thank you so much!

                        With the best wishes,
                        Els

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                        • els
                          Benutzer
                          • 17.12.2017
                          • 72

                          #14
                          I wonder what happen to Frieda Kleinhenn, born 16-03-1904 in Altena, Westphalia, Germany. Frieda married on 04-11-1930 in Frankfurt am Main to Robert Stricker. Did she re-marry and get children? Where did she live and died afterwards?

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                          • Kasstor
                            Erfahrener Benutzer
                            • 09.11.2009
                            • 13440

                            #15
                            Zitat von els Beitrag anzeigen
                            Dear Russenmädchen,

                            More than 2 years I have been in search if Olga and Kurt were related.

                            I am somewhat puzzled as you stated in September 2017 https://www.joodsmonument.nl/nl/page/581065/-
                            that
                            "Op het aanhoudingsdocument van 2 mei 1942 in Praag staan als kinderen Kurt en Olga genoemd."



                            No other information now.


                            Thomas
                            Zuletzt geändert von Kasstor; 01.05.2019, 14:22.
                            FN Pein (Quickborn vor 1830), FN Hinsch (Poppenbüttel, Schenefeld), FN Holle (Hamburg, Lüchow?), FN Ludwig/Niesel (Frankenstein/Habelschwerdt) FN Tönnies (Meelva bei Karuse-Estland, später Hamburg), FN Lindloff (Altona, Lüneburg, Suderburg)

                            Ceterum censeo progeniem hominum esse deminuendam

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