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  • els
    Benutzer
    • 17.12.2017
    • 72

    Looking for: Marcus, Philipp, Blum, Israel, Neumann, Wollstein

    Hello,

    May I ask for your help?


    On the forum Ahnenforschung.Net section Berlin I started the topic ‘Search for Max Marcus, Rosa Blum, Selma Neumann’.
    Hello, May I ask for your help? Max Marcus was born on 30-01-1886 in Filehne, Wielkopolskie, Poland, son of Jakob Marcus and Minna Philipp. Max died on 09-04-1943 in Sobibor, Poland. (1) Max married Rosa Blum on 11-09-1913 in Berlin, Germany (Heiraten, StA Berlin VII, 1913). Rosa was born on 17-02-1887 in Berlin,


    The search for the past goes back to Posen in nowadays Poland. This is what is found sofar.

    Jakob Marcus married Minna Philipp.
    Children of Jakob and Minna:
    Julius Marcus, born on 16-01-1881 in Filehne (Wieleń), Germany (Poland).
    Max Marcus, born on 30-01-1886 in Filehne (Wieleń),Germany (Poland).
    And perhaps Bernard Marcus, born on 28-03-1876 in Filehne (Wieleń), Germany (Poland).

    - Albert Blum was born in 1850 in Berlin, Germany. Albert died in 1919 in Berlin, Germany
    (1) Albert married Mathilde Israel. Mathilde was born in 1853 in Magdeburg, Germany, daughter of Eduard Israel and Johanne Grünbaum. Mathilde died on 04-08-1894 in Magdeburg, Germany.
    (2) Albert married Rosalie (Rosa) Baron in Berlin, Germany. Rosa was born in 1853 in Kyritz. Rosalie died on 05-01-1922 in Berlin, Germany.
    Child of Albert and Mathilde:
    Rosa Blum, born on 17-02-1887 in Berlin, Germany.

    - Siegmund Neumann was born on 09-07-1860 in Filehne (Wieleń), Germany (Poland), son of Gutkind Neumann and Minna Wollstein. Siegmund died on 15-06-1915 in Berlin-Lankwitz, Germany.
    (1) Siegmund married Pauline Cohn on 08-01-1886 in Grünfier (Zielonowo), Germany (Poland). Pauline was born on 01-04-1861 in Ascherbude (Biernatowo), Germany (Poland), daughter of Joseph Cohn and Johanna Jacobsohn.
    (2) Siegmund married Fanny (Flora) Lesser in May 1892 in Schönlanke (Czarnkow), Germany (Poland). Flora was born in 08-1854 in Schönlanke (Czarnkow), Germany (Poland), daughter of Joel (Louis) Lesser and Johanna Gottheimer.
    Child of Siegmund and Pauline:
    Selma Neumann, born on 13-12-1890 in Filehne (Wieleń), Germany (Poland).


    Questions I have are:
    - Is more information available of Jakob Marcus and Minna Philipp (i.e. dates of birth, marriage, death, places, occupation)? And did they get more children?
    - Is more information available of Siegmund Neumann and Pauline Cohn? And did they get more children?
    - Are anchestors of Albert Blum and Mathilde Israel coming from the same area?
    - When did they move to Berlin or other places?

    Unfortunately, I do not know the Polish language. German I can read.

    Your help would be highly appreciated.

    With kind regards,
    Els
    The Netherlands


    On the forum Wielkopolskie Towarzystwo Genealogiczne GNIAZDO I started the same topic ‘Looking for: Marcus, Philipp, Blum, Israel, Neumann, Wollstein’.
    Zuletzt ge?ndert von els; 21.09.2019, 13:10.
  • els
    Benutzer
    • 17.12.2017
    • 72

    #2
    Jednostka aktowa: 55/907/0/1.1.3.2/346 Digital copies: 0
    Rechungswesen der jüdischen Gemeinden im kreise Filehne / Wieleń /
    1891-1912

    Filehne Jewish Community, 1870-1936. 0.5 feet. Inventory list. AR 4099, Part III; location: B
    34/4.
    Zuletzt ge?ndert von els; 17.09.2019, 21:18.

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    • els
      Benutzer
      • 17.12.2017
      • 72

      #3
      I can read German, but have difficulties to read the handwriting.

      If someone can help what is written under 'Wohnung' etc. that would be very helpful.

      Nr 77
      Jacob Marcus born in 1825, Filehne, Wielkopolskie, Poland.
      https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/53/474/0/19.3/14788/str/1/6/15/zcwtCg00ZzqHnTLikZdkdg/#tabSkany

      Am 19.12.75 ?
      Berlin in ?
      1?8 ? ?
      ?
      12/6/76 ?

      ==> If this is the right father of Julius and Max is not mentioned on the card. He was not a young man anymore when Julius and Max were born. No evidents are found yet this is the right father of Julius and Max Marcus!

      Nr 64
      Bernard Marcus born on 28-03-1876, Filehne, Wielkopolskie, Poland.
      https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/53/474/0/19.3/14788/skan/full/eTRm17kP6rCgo08nhGhOGw


      ? Warschau
      w H. ? 62/36
      b. Schultz
      7.10.93 nach Filehne

      If Bernard is a brother of Max is not quite sure, the parents are not written on the card.

      Nr. 87 and Nr. 88
      Julius Marcus born on 16-01-1881, Filehne, Wielkopolskie, Poland.
      https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/53/474/0/19.3/14788/skan/full/Su8S7cWYQhsW10WjWwzrvA
      https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/53/474/0/19.3/14788/skan/full/w9BggRaZcHxu3EvfVkvpGw

      1.5.87 ?
      Filehne in
      ? 5?19 zu
      Falkenheim
      4.5.95 ? 37 bei
      ?

      5.11.95 K?. ? 7
      ? Anspa?
      7.3.96 ? ?
      74
      Anspa?
      3.9.96 ? 13
      Bauchwitz?
      3.12.96 ? 94
      ?
      2.4.97 ? Berlin

      Julius and Max are brothers, because on the card of Julius is written: Jacob M, Minna Philipp.

      With best wishes,
      Els


      Possible streetnames of Brückenvorstadt (früher Stadtanger):
      Miquelstrasse, Moltkestrasse, Die Neue Strasse, Peterstrasse, Priesterstrasse, Rungestrasse, Schlageterstrasse, Schlossstrasse, Schönhofstrasse, Böhmische Strasse, Schulzestrasse, Soldiner Strasse, Winzerweg, Wissmannstrasse, Ziegelstrasse, Bromberger Strasse, Bülowstrasse, Am Kinderfenn, Franz-Seldte-Strasse, Friedebergerstrasse, Friedrich-Wilhelm-Kranich-Strasse, Hermann-Göring-Strasse, Hindenburgstrasse, Hohenzollernstrasse, Klosestrasse, Bahnhofstrasse, Lehmannstrasse, Lüderitzstrasse, Marktplatz, Max-Bahr-Strasse, Mehlstrasse.
      Zuletzt ge?ndert von els; 21.09.2019, 13:11.

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      • AUK2013
        Erfahrener Benutzer
        • 21.05.2013
        • 901

        #4
        Hallo Els.

        Nr 64
        ? Marcus born on 28-03-1876, Filehne, Wielkopolskie, Poland.


        The first name is hard to read.
        Ich lese: Bernhard Marcus

        7.10.93 nach Filehne (verzogen / gezogen)
        >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

        Liebe Grüße

        Arno

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        • els
          Benutzer
          • 17.12.2017
          • 72

          #5
          Thank you very much, Arno! I would liked that my German was better.

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          • sophonibal
            Benutzer
            • 18.01.2019
            • 93

            #6
            Nr 77
            Jacob Marcus born in 1825, Filehne, Wielkopolskie, Poland.
            https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/53/474/0...dkdg/#tabSkany
            Jacob Marcus
            Stand: Handelsm.(ann)

            Am 19.12.75 aus
            Berlin in Juden-
            str(aße) 8 ??? Sußmann
            zugezogen
            12/8/76 Leipzig

            Nr 64
            Bernard Marcus born on 28-03-1876, Filehne, Wielkopolskie, Poland.
            https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/53/474/0...6rCgo08nhGhOGw
            Bernard Marcus
            Stand: Schneider

            ? Warschau
            u St Martin??? 62/36
            b. Schultz
            7.10.93 nach Filehne

            Julius Markus (16-01-1881)
            Stand: Schüler

            1.5.87 aus
            Filehne in
            Teichstr.(aße) 5?(7?)19 zu
            Falkenheim
            4.5.95 Markt 37 bei
            Werner

            5.11.95 Kl.(eine) Gerberstr. 7
            bei Anspach
            7.3.96 Alter Markt
            74
            Anspach
            3.9.96 Schuhmacher 13
            Bauchwitz
            3.12.96 Markt 94
            dto (dito)
            2.4.97 nach Berlin

            For all this persons religion is given as "mos." = mosaisch
            Zuletzt ge?ndert von sophonibal; 17.09.2019, 11:31.

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            • els
              Benutzer
              • 17.12.2017
              • 72

              #7
              Thank you very much for this great support!

              With the best wishes,
              Els

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              • els
                Benutzer
                • 17.12.2017
                • 72

                #8
                Jewish Genealogy site for helping in the translation and identification of genealogy related documents, photos and artifacts

                Jewish Genealogy site for helping in the translation and identification of genealogy related documents, photos and artifacts



                Death Certificate

                No. 1233
                Berlin, April the 26th 1909
                The following person, legitimized
                by (official) identity card, appeared today in front of the registrar
                the businessman Max Marcus
                residing in Berlin Belle Alliancestrasse 103,
                and reported that the independent gentleman Jakob
                Marcus, husband of Berta born
                Kretschmer
                71 years old, of mosaic faith,
                residing in Berlin Allensteinerstrasse 14,
                born in Bomst, county seat
                Son of the late and lastly living in Meseritz,
                county seat, businessman
                Marcus /(sen.?) married couple, widow [name] unknown,
                passed away in Berlin Allensteinerstrasse 14 in his presence,
                on April 25th. 1909
                in the morning at seven o'clock.
                Read, approved and signed
                Max Marcus
                The Registrar
                [signature of registrar]

                ==> 20-09-2019: This is not the right father of Max and Julius Marcus!
                Zuletzt ge?ndert von els; 20.09.2019, 20:08.

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                • Mr. Black
                  Erfahrener Benutzer
                  • 12.08.2009
                  • 760

                  #9
                  Bertha Kretschmer: 1849-12.10.1912. Gestorben in Berlin, geboren in Jacobshagen, Kreis Saatzig in Pommern. Eltern: Moritz Kretschmer und Laura Cohn.

                  Vielleicht ist das ja interessant.

                  Alles Gute

                  Marcus
                  Just a drop of water in an endless sea. All we are is dust in the wind.
                  http://ahnensuche.wordpress.com/

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                  • Mr. Black
                    Erfahrener Benutzer
                    • 12.08.2009
                    • 760

                    #10
                    Man gestatte mir noch eine Ergänzung. Die Heirat Marcus/Kretschmer war am 16.08.1875, Standesamt Coerlin, Nr. 18/1875. Seine Eltern: Mann Marcus und Zirel Cohn.

                    Alles Gute

                    Marcus

                    P.S. So ganz scheint hier etwas nicht zu stimmen, wenn ich mir die obigen Ehen in genannter Reihenfolge ansehe.
                    Zuletzt ge?ndert von Mr. Black; 20.09.2019, 13:01. Grund: Anmerkung
                    Just a drop of water in an endless sea. All we are is dust in the wind.
                    http://ahnensuche.wordpress.com/

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                    • sophonibal
                      Benutzer
                      • 18.01.2019
                      • 93

                      #11
                      Els, what is your source for the wife Minna Philipp?
                      Is it on Max' birth certificate (do you have it?)? And Bertha?


                      This is the death notice in Berliner Tageblatt for Jakob Marcus on 27th April 1909


                      and this for Bertha


                      really not sure if this is the right family

                      update ^^so these are a different family!
                      Zuletzt ge?ndert von sophonibal; 20.09.2019, 20:56.

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                      • els
                        Benutzer
                        • 17.12.2017
                        • 72

                        #12
                        Zitat von Mr. Black Beitrag anzeigen
                        P.S. So ganz scheint hier etwas nicht zu stimmen, wenn ich mir die obigen Ehen in genannter Reihenfolge ansehe.


                        Zitat von sophonibal Beitrag anzeigen
                        Els, what is your source for the wife Minna Philipp?


                        On the marriage certificate of the daughter in 1938 are menioned as parents Max Marcus and Rosa Blum, dead.

                        This is the marrage certificate of Max Marcus and Rosa Blum with their parents:

                        Zitat von jacq Beitrag anzeigen


                        Accoring to the marriage with Max (Heiraten, StA Berlin VII, 1913) = Ancestry
                        I do not have the birth certificate of Max Marcus.
                        Zuletzt ge?ndert von els; 20.09.2019, 20:45.

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                        • russenmaedchen
                          Erfahrener Benutzer
                          • 01.08.2010
                          • 1699

                          #13
                          Pferdehändler Jacob Marcus
                          married to Minna Philipp
                          both lived in Filehne
                          Jacob Marcus died before 1900 in Filehne
                          his widow Minna Philipp after 1910 in Filehne
                          sources: marriage certificates of their children


                          1. Cerline Marcus, 23. februar 1871 in Filehne marriage 27. Jan 1900 in Berlin to Max Beer
                          2. Julius Marcus, 16. januar 1881 in Filehne marriage 9. Jul 1910 in Berlin to Ella Räsener
                          3. Max Marcus, 30. januar 1886 in Filehne - known
                          Zuletzt ge?ndert von russenmaedchen; 20.09.2019, 20:52.
                          Viele Grüße
                          russenmädchen






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                          • els
                            Benutzer
                            • 17.12.2017
                            • 72

                            #14
                            Zitat von russenmaedchen Beitrag anzeigen
                            Pferdehändler Jacob Marcus
                            married to Minna Philipp
                            both lived in Filehne
                            Jacob Marcus died before 1900 in Filehne
                            his widow Minna Philipp after 1910 in Filehne
                            sources: marriage certificates of their children


                            1. Cerline Marcus, 23. februar 1871 in Filehne marriage 27. Jan 1900 in Berlin to Max Beer
                            2. Julius Marcus, 16. januar 1881 in Filehne marriage 9. Jul 1910 in Berlin to Ella Räsener
                            3. Max Marcus, 30. januar 1886 in Filehne - known

                            Wow!

                            Perhaps also other children:
                            - Bernard Marcus, born on 28-03-1876 in Filehne (Wieleń), Germany (Poland).
                            - Henriette Pakulla geborene Marcus, geboren am 17. Oktober 1878 in Filehne (poln. Wielen).
                            Ehemann Marcus Pakulla geb. 26.06.1871 Oberschlesien, gest. 01.07.1927 Merseburg. Aus dieser Ehe gingen 2 Kinder hervor.


                            Thank you very much!
                            Zuletzt ge?ndert von els; 23.09.2019, 14:14.

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                            • sophonibal
                              Benutzer
                              • 18.01.2019
                              • 93

                              #15
                              Marcus seems to be a quite common name. Not easy to find out who is who without Filehne documents.
                              Bundesarchiv has a few results for Markus / Marcus & Filehne

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