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  • Freienhagen
    Benutzer
    • 27.09.2018
    • 19

    Hello. Please help

    I would like to know if there was a coat of arms assigned to the name Freienhagen.
    Thanks in advance for your help.

    Seeking Freienhagen/Freyenhagen


    Robert
    Zuletzt ge?ndert von Freienhagen; 27.09.2018, 15:49.
  • kalex1946
    Erfahrener Benutzer
    • 10.08.2017
    • 464

    #2
    Hallo



    Die Suche in Siebmacher bei CERL (Consortium of European Research Libraries) hier

    ergibt 2 Treffer. Die Treffer anklicken, um zu dem Eintrag zu gelangen und dort weiterlesen.

    Die Suche in Siebmacher bei WW-Person http://ww-person.com/cgi-bin/siebmacher ergibt Folgendes aus Städtewappen

    Link zum Bild!

    Gruß aus South Carolina

    Kurt
    Zuletzt ge?ndert von Xtine; 27.09.2018, 19:36. Grund: Zu großes Bild verlinkt

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    • Freienhagen
      Benutzer
      • 27.09.2018
      • 19

      #3
      Hi


      Thanks for the help


      Results found on the page https://data.cerl.org/siebmacher/_se...t&sort=default


      The first link, unfortunately, from the German translator translates to me sentences without sense, so I would like to request a translation of this excerpt into English
      The second link concerns the city, I think in Hesse and I am looking for the family coat of arms


      Robert

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      • Hracholusky
        Moderator
        • 17.03.2016
        • 888

        #4
        Hallo,


        ich habe hier ein Adelswappen "Freyenhagen von Rosenstern". Ein anderes konnte ich nicht finden. Eventuell ist Kurt so nett und übersetzt es dir.



        Hier ist auch der Eintrag im Österreichischen Staatsarchiv:


        Zuletzt ge?ndert von Hracholusky; 27.09.2018, 20:05. Grund: Zusatz angefügt
        Mit besten Grüssen
        Gerd

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        • kalex1946
          Erfahrener Benutzer
          • 10.08.2017
          • 464

          #5
          Hello Robert,

          I see that Gerd posted the text and image before I was able to.

          First of all, you need to know that a coat of arms (Wappen in German) is granted to a family, not to a name. Only direct descendants in the male line of the original armiger have the right to use/display the arms as their own. You must be a direct descendant of Heinrich Wilhelm Freienhagen (Freyenhagen) in order to use this coat of arms. A quick search on the Internet for Freienhagen von Rosenstern or Freyenhagen von Rosenstern yields quite a few hits, albeit in German (try Google translate). I can send these links to you in a separate document via personal message. You will have to research your family history to determine whether you are a direct descendant.

          The text in Siebmacher (supplemented with additional information I found in other sources) basically states that Heinrich Wilhelm Freienhagen (Freyenhagen), a high administrative official (Drost, see Landdrost in Wikipedia) in the territory of Braunschweig Wolfenbüttel was raised to the nobility with the additional name "von Rosenstern". The coat of arms shown below has a shield divided into 3 sections (red, white (silver), black from top to bottom) with 3 white (silver) stars in the upper red segment and a green rosebush with green leaves sprouting from a green mound in the black bottom section, and 2 red roses on the branches in the center white (silver) segment. The crest shows the rosebush without leaves.


          Regards from South Carolina

          Kurt

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          • kalex1946
            Erfahrener Benutzer
            • 10.08.2017
            • 464

            #6
            Minor correction

            The crest shows the rosebush without roses.

            Kurt

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            • Xtine
              Administrator
              • 16.07.2006
              • 28326

              #7
              Hello,

              please note that only if Heinrich August Wilhelm Freyenhagen is an ancestor of you, this coat of arms could be from your family.

              Equality of name does not mean that it could be the coat of arms of your family!
              You have to do thorough genealogy
              Viele Grüße .................................. .
              Christine
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              Wer sich das Alte noch einmal vor Augen führt, um das Neue zu erkennen, der kann anderen ein Lehrer sein.
              (Konfuzius)

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              • consanguineus
                Erfahrener Benutzer
                • 15.05.2018
                • 5525

                #8
                Zitat von Hracholusky Beitrag anzeigen
                Hallo,


                ich habe hier ein Adelswappen "Freyenhagen von Rosenstern". Ein anderes konnte ich nicht finden. Eventuell ist Kurt so nett und übersetzt es dir.



                Hier ist auch der Eintrag im Österreichischen Staatsarchiv:


                http://archivinformationssystem.at/d...spx?id=2234397

                Just in the interests of accuracy I must point out that the name of the ducal "Amt" (judicial district) ist "Wickensen", not "Wickenseer".
                Suche:

                Joh. Christian KROHNFUSS, Jäger, * um 1790
                Carl KRÜGER, Amtmann in Bredenfelde, * um 1700
                Georg Melchior SUDHOFF, Pächter in Calvörde, * um 1680
                Ludolph ZUR MÜHLEN, Kaufmann in Bielefeld, * um 1650
                Dorothea v. NETTELHORST a. d. H. Kapsehden, * um 1600
                Thomas SCHÜTZE, Bürgermeister in Wernigerode 1561

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                • Freienhagen
                  Benutzer
                  • 27.09.2018
                  • 19

                  #9
                  Hi


                  While browsing the search results for Rosenstern I came across an interesting mention on the site http://home.foni.net/~adelsforschung1/vergess.htm


                  Vergessene deutsche Adelsfamilien



                  Rosenstern
                  Der braunschweigische Drost Freienhagen wurde Ende des 18.Jahrhunderts als "v.Rosenstern" nobilitert und seine Nachkommen waren noch im 19.Jahrhundert im Hannoverschen grundsässig (Quelle). Ein Sekondeleutnant v.Rosenstern stand 1801 als aktiver Offizier in der Kgl. Preußischen Armee (Quelle). Als Inhaber von Orden und Ehrenzeichen sind deutsche Staatsangehörige mit dem Namen v.Rosenstern auch noch 1908 nachweisbar (Quelle).

                  if you could send me Kalex 1946 I would be grateful (looking for something I could overlook)


                  It's nice if us succeeded in the descendants of the abovementioned Freienhagen connect with my current family tree here link to the thread https://forum.ahnenforschung.net/sho...d.php?t=166267




                  I know for now it is only speculation but it would suit my family history


                  Robert
                  Zuletzt ge?ndert von Freienhagen; 28.09.2018, 13:26.

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                  • kalex1946
                    Erfahrener Benutzer
                    • 10.08.2017
                    • 464

                    #10
                    Zitat von Freienhagen Beitrag anzeigen
                    Hi


                    While browsing the search results for Rosenstern I came across an interesting mention on the site http://home.foni.net/~adelsforschung1/vergess.htm


                    Vergessene deutsche Adelsfamilien



                    Rosenstern
                    Der braunschweigische Drost Freienhagen wurde Ende des 18.Jahrhunderts als "v.Rosenstern" nobilitert und seine Nachkommen waren noch im 19.Jahrhundert im Hannoverschen grundsässig (Quelle). Ein Sekondeleutnant v.Rosenstern stand 1801 als aktiver Offizier in der Kgl. Preußischen Armee (Quelle). Als Inhaber von Orden und Ehrenzeichen sind deutsche Staatsangehörige mit dem Namen v.Rosenstern auch noch 1908 nachweisbar (Quelle).

                    if you could send me Kalex 1946 I would be grateful (looking for something I could overlook)

                    It's nice if us succeeded in the descendants of the abovementioned Freienhagen connect with my current family tree here link to the thread https://forum.ahnenforschung.net/sho...d.php?t=166267

                    I know for now it is only speculation but it would suit my family history

                    Robert
                    Hello Robert,

                    In brief, the above text states that a Freyenhagen serving as "Drost" (steward, bailiff) in Braunschweig was ennobled at the end of the 18th century with the additional name "von Rosenstern" and his descendants were still listed as property/estate owners in Hannover in the 19th century. A second lieutenant with the name "von Rosenstern" was an officer on active duty in the Prussian army in 1801. German citizens with the name "von Rosenstern" who had received honors and been inducted into orders were still listed in 1908.

                    See the private message I sent with a link to a brief document I compiled from a few selected links on the Internet. One link discusses the occurrence and distribution of the Freyenhagen name in various spellings in Lower Saxony. There are probably numerous families with the name Freyenhagen in one spelling or another. Another link https://list.genealogy.net/mm/archiv.../msg00037.html takes you to an older post in geneaology.net from a descendant of a Johann Daniel Freyenhagen who lived before the Heinrich Wilhelm who was ennobled. The members of the Freyenhagen family in the above posting moved in pretty high circles and married into aristocratic families (von der Schulenburg, von der Lippe, von Bonhorst) and also had a coat of arms described as a red shield with a gold tree. The grandfather of Heinrich Wilhelm is also listed there.

                    The Freyenhagen name also appears in the Deutsche Geschlechterbücher. There may be more information there, albeit in German.

                    You will really have to conduct your own family research to see if your family connects to any of Freyenhagens listed in that link. Can you tell us where you live? Do you know anyone who reads German? Have you started tracing your own ancestors at all? Let us know what information you have and the profis here in the forum may be able to take you farther back in your genealogy.

                    Regards from South Carolina

                    Kurt

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                    • kalex1946
                      Erfahrener Benutzer
                      • 10.08.2017
                      • 464

                      #11
                      Hello Robert,

                      I had not clicked on the link you provided before answering and now see that you ancestors come from East Prussia. It would still be interesting to know when they first appeared in East Prussia and whether they possibly migrated from Lower Saxony in a previous century.

                      Regards from South Carolina

                      Kurt

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                      • Freienhagen
                        Benutzer
                        • 27.09.2018
                        • 19

                        #12
                        Hi


                        I would like to direct all interested to my other thread and close this one. Thank you for your help.


                        https://forum.ahnenforschung.net/showthread.php?t=166267



                        Robert

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