Ulmet

[baatz]

Hallo
suche nach Drumm Johannes geb.6.9.1646 verh.mit Ploher catharina 21.2.1671. gibt es eventuel ein familienbuch von ulmet ?
schöne grüsse stefan

[itau]

Ulmet

Hallo Stefan

es gibt ein Familienbuch Ulmet :


Ulmet/073/1981/1639-1731 (?)
Herzog, Heinrich: Kirchenbuch Ulmet 1639-1731 o.A. 1981 ST Zweibrücken: AG für Fam.forschung Archiv Best.-verz.1.7.94

[Wolfg. G. Fischer]

Hallo Stefan,

ein Johannes Dromm war in Ulmet am 21. Mai 1684 Pate bei meinem Vorfahren Johannes Schwab, Sohn von Hans Jörg Schwab und Engel geb. Hertel.

Ob eine verwandtschaftliche Beziehung bezeht, weiß ich leider nicht.

Mit besten Grüßen
Wolfgang

[baatz]

Hallo Irene danke für info

schöne grüsse stefan

[margaretmargaret1]

Schwab

Hello Wolfgang,
Ich bin herabgestiegen von Hans Jörg Schwab und Engel .... würde zum Austausch von Informationen wie.
Danke, Margaret

Hallo Stefan,

ein Johannes Dromm war in Ulmet am 21. Mai 1684 Pate bei meinem Vorfahren Johannes Schwab, Sohn von Hans Jörg Schwab und Engel geb. Hertel.

Ob eine verwandtschaftliche Beziehung bezeht, weiß ich leider nicht.

Mit besten Grüßen
Wolfgang

[Jogy]

Hallo Stefan,
folge mal dem Link, da findest Du jede Menge aus Ulmet:

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=Search&includedb=&lang=en&ti=&surname=&stype=Exact&given=&bplace=Ulmet&byear=&brange=0&dplace=&dyear=&drange=0&mplace=&myear=&mrange=0&father=&mother=&spouse=&skipdb=&period=All&submit.x=Search

Gruß Jogy

[Wolfg. G. Fischer]

Schwab in Ulmet

Hello Wolfgang,

Ich bin herabgestiegen von Hans Jörg Schwab und Engel .... würde zum Austausch von Informationen wie.

Danke, Margaret

Hello Margaret,

is English your language? Which child of Hans Jörg and Engel is your ancestor?

Regards, Wolfgang

[margaretmargaret1]

Schwab

Hello Wolfgang,
Yes English is my language.

My ancestor is Hans Peter Schwab,
Hans Peter Schwob


Born: Ulmet, Pfalz
Born: 1673
Christened: ?
Sponsors
Father: Johann Georg Schwob
Mother: Anna Engel/Engeln
Marrried: Anna Maria Kuhn, June 16, 1698 Cappeln, (RKB Ulmet)
Occupation: Blacksmith in Kusel
Died: February 22, 1743, Kusel “uber 70 Jahr”
Buried: February 23, 1743 Kusel

I would like to find more information....I have many early Schwabs, but not sure how they connect!

Margaret

[Wolfg. G. Fischer]

Hello Margaret,

Hans Jörg Schwab and Engel Hertel from Rathsweiler were married Ulmet June 6, 1667.

Hans Jörg was not born in Ulmet, his father Nickel Schwab is mentioned there since 1658, he died Ulmet Apr. 2, 1691 at the age of 88 years. His widow Gertraud died Ulmet May 3, 1700 at the age of more than 80 years.

I guess, Hans Jörg died not die in Ulmet. Maybe he moved to the place of his second wife Gertraud from Baumholder.

Engel Hertel was born Jan. 1646 in Rathsweiler, she died Ulmet July 10, 1699 at the age of 52 and a half years.

Her father Hans Abraham Hertel is mentioned in http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestr...&id=I4588.6495

Regards, Wolfgang

[margaretmargaret1]

Early Schwab

Thank you Wolfgang. Do you know the name of the wife of Nicklas?
I have these early Schwabs

1609 Palatine Church Visitations

Cussel

Hearth #58 Hans Schwab, wool weaver, Katharina, 3 sons, Hans, Nickel, Hans Lienhart, daughter Barbichen

Hearth #98 Bartel Schwott, Blacksmith, Barbel, 1 son Johannisin, 2 daughters Mareylin, Barbelichen (note: Bartel Schwott, Barbel Schan, married 1600, Kusel)

Hearth #101 Johannes Schwab, wool weaver, Katharina, 1 son Johannes, 3 daughters, Maria, Els, Brigitta

Rudi Jung
Married vor 1680
Schwab Hans Georg ja um 1650 in . . . + vor 1728 in Rohrbach
(son of von Sch. . . . Hirt in Eckersweiler und Rohrbach
. . . Anna Maria born um 1653 in . . .(T. + 30.12.1728, Witwe " von ..)
Kinder:
Hans Heinrich born 10.10.1688 married 1716 Anna Eva Threin
aus Gimbweiler
Second marriage - 18.2.1721 Elisab. Mehler, Morschied

Hans Nickel born 22..o9.1697 married 2.5.1730 M. Elisab, Kath. Ruth aus Walhausen

Anm.: Schwab Bernhard, Landwirt u. Fuhrmann in Ruschberg,
und Frau Barbara (1609)
Oberamt Lichtenberg tax census 1704

Trahweiler-Nicklas Schwab

Steinberg-Deckenhardt-Nickel Schwob

Do you know the name of Nickel Schwab's wife? Or other Children?
I have two sons only Hans Jorg Schwab and Philipp....


Johan Philips Schwab/Philippus Schwoben
Born: 1670?
Father:
Mother:
Marrried: Margretha (Unknown)
Children:
1. Maria Catharina Schwab -Born 13 NOV 1695 Evangelisch, Ulmet, Pfalz, Bayern

Died: Between 1695 and 1704
1704- Philipps Schwoben Kinder 1 6 12
Oberamt Lichtenberg, Ulmet and Pilsbach

Regards,

Margaret

[Wolfg. G. Fischer]

That's interesting, Margaret. Thank you!

I guess, Nickel Schwab (died 1691) could have come from Kusel to Ulmet. His wife was Gertraud, died 1700.

I think, Johann Philipp, born about 1670, is to young to be their son.

The Kusel church records starts 1567 and there are existing LDS films. We should try to have a look into it.

Regards, Wolfgang

[margaretmargaret1]

Kusel Film

Hello Wolfgang,
If you have time, I have a lot more to compare with you regarding Schwab, Hertel, Adam, etc. I think you are right about Philip, although he is in very close proximity to Hans Jorg.

Regarding Rudi Jung, he has found in the Pfeffelbach/Lichtenberg EV churchbook the reference to the death of Gertrud....another mystery to solve....perhaps there are two?

+ 6.10.1727 Gertrud, Georg Schwaben Frau von Ulmet, 69 Jahre alt.

The children I have found for Hans Jorg and Anna Engeln Hertel are....I think I do not have them all.....especially the boys....which one is yours?
1. Magdalena Schwab -14 JUN 1668 Ulmet


2. Hans Peter Schwob - 1673 Ulmet , Married Anna Maria Kuhn of Kusel, June 16, 1698



3. Anna Eva Schwab = 20 NOV 1681 Ulmet



4. Anna Elisabetha Christina Schwab-11 APR 1688 Ulmet, Marrried Johan Adam Simon, 07 February, 1709

5. Anna Martha Schwab- 05 NOV 1690 Ulmet




Also they have the Kusel Film in Kaiserslautern.......

[Wolfg. G. Fischer]

Hello Margaret,

I have sent you a private message.

Georg (Jörg) Schwab had two wifes. The second one was Gertrud (Gertraud), the widow of Johann Nickel Burger in Baumholder.

My ancestor is Georg's son Johannes Schwab, ~ Ulmet May 21, 1684. He became a Hessian soldier ("Gelber Dragoner"). He died Heimboldshausen, Hessen-Kassel Apr. 4, 1742. His wife was Anna Martha ........., born about 1678. She died Heimboldshausen Sept. 7, 1749 at the age of 71 years and 5 months.

When was Hans Peter's wife Anna Martha Kuhn born and when did she die?

Best regards, Wolfgang